It is my contention that ANY one who post on this site IS a supporter,,,,, and in recognition of that idealism I would like to do something nice for them,,,,
I believe it is REAL nice that Steve rewards his LOYALs,,, and carrots the donkey,,,,
But WHY should the rest of HIS site supporters be LEFT out..... (they should NOT)..
SO I shall....voluntary take this position,,,
and we will have a GAME of or OWN....
GAME> guess the last four numbers of that money order...such as 4892 or 1297 or your best guess......
RULES> ONLY VISITORS may participate.....Only one guess per Visitor... you MUST be a visitor on the last day of the drawing...
Term Visitor as defind by the management of this site...
The one coming closest to that number will WIN the GIFT CERTIFICATE from Wal-Mart....
The GAME win run till Valentines DAY.....
No I am not rich,,, No you will not win Sign Crap,,,,, because there is more to life than SIGNS.....good luck,,, have a good clean game,,,,,,Twain,TBuk...
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
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Deb
Creative Signs
"All the gold in the world cannot buy a dying man one more breath. So what does that make today worth?" Og Mandino
Just be sure that everyone does this so the site can crumble up and die.
Next Letterhead meet's at TBUK's. No admission and everyone gets a gift certificate. But no talking about signs.
C'mon - Ted, why the lingering resentment of those who choose to financially support the site?
It's mutiny I tell ya! Hang him from the yardarm!
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Pat Neve, Jr.
Sign Man, Inc.
4580 N. US 1
Melbourne, FL 32935
321-259-1703
signman@signmaninc.com
Capt. Sign
Letterville Constituent
constituent: "One of the individual entities contributing to a whole"
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Deb
Creative Signs
"All the gold in the world cannot buy a dying man one more breath. So what does that make today worth?" Og Mandino
Thas'it,..............Crazeeeeeeeee
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Jack Wills
Studio Design Works
6255 Brookside Circle
Rocklin, CA 95677
writer@quiknet.com
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surf or MoJo on mirc
Cheryl J Nordby
Signs by Cheryl
(206) 300-0153
Seattle WA.....!
signsbycheryl@hotmail.com
A day without sunshine is like, you know...night http://signsbycheryl.homestead.com/home.html
http://mojosignco.homestead.com/home.html
Tbuk, you are making a good point of making all that join in on this site feel worthy.
And I admire that fact.
Deb
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Deb
Creative Signs
"All the gold in the world cannot buy a dying man one more breath. So what does that make today worth?" Og Mandino
DEB,,,sorry gal,,, you are NOT qualified to play... (in this game) good luck at Steve's drawings... you are good till your pay date of july... check with Barb for more info...tbuk
Cheryl,,, ya must be a carpenter'' you hit the nail on the head,,, I think I'll crack me open a corona'' and continplate what you said, Twain,TBuk
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
just when I thought I might get some good primer (or some more paper towels..or...)
good luck to you visitors!!!!!
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Deb
Creative Signs
"All the gold in the world cannot buy a dying man one more breath. So what does that make today worth?" Og Mandino
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The SignShop
Mendocino, California
"Where the Redwoods meet the Surf"
Oh, for the faith of a spider! He begins his web without any thread.
What do you think it cost [ moneywise ] to put up a site like this one?
Isn't Steves time worth anything?
Do you think everyone shops at walmart?
How much does an ounce of herb cost these days?
Why is it that californians use so much electricity?
How come the west coast always takes credit for something new?
and lastly...
How come you are spelling your words out correctly these days?
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HotLines Joey Madden
Pinstriper and designer of the Inflite'
See it go to work http://www.killerkoncepts.com
learning capabilities http://www.members.tripod.com/Inflite
Up till my activity on this page, I have been extremely reluctant to share knowledge to others of what I do (and the years spent learning it), but having spent a little time on this site, I have come to realize that (as many of you) the VALUE of information and the many folks here that freely share that info without hesitation has humbled me greatly and just in the last few weeks, I have gained knowledge that spending lots on books would not have come close to satisfying...therefore I felt compelled as a business person to realize that without this page...would I have ever learned this much...yes...trade shows (mucho bucks just to get in...much less the travel)....sign catalogs...?????
Yes....I am proud to be a resident...that tells everyone that does share that info freely without charge that I am in support of this format and hope to goodness that the info keeps pouring in. I can't paint worth a darn and one day hope to work with someone that does without being charged large fees for teaching me.
For those who remain visitors...your choice but can you say that this page has not been beneficial at all?.....and if so...how much?..I can't beleive that it has been worth less than 55 bucks.
As for Steve, If you make a fortune off this page above and beyond it's operating cost, I say TA...your hard work and fresh format is what drew me here to begin with....I figure on saving at least 10K this year just because of a few tips I learned here...
What A Steal!!!!!!!
Drmwvr
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Robert Beverly
Dreamweaver Studios
Arlington, Texas
NEV,,,,LOL, it seems you swam up to the pier, climb up the ladder, walk the full lenth, just to dive off the DIRT end..... ANYONE of this site is welcome to my house, for a bar B Q, where we will talk of many things,,,NOT JUST SIGNS.... I also support the supporters,,,,,this post is NOT about that... thanks for your input.tbuk
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...Ted - backatcha...
I'll take you up on that BBQ sometime if you agree to come have some gator tail if you ever land in FLA.
Different paths - same destination.
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Pat Neve, Jr.
Sign Man, Inc.
4580 N. US 1
Melbourne, FL 32935
321-259-1703
signman@signmaninc.com
Capt. Sign
Letterville Constituent
constituent: "One of the individual entities contributing to a whole"
[This message has been edited by Nevman (edited January 31, 2001).]
Isn't Steves time worth anything? WELL JOEY,,,, BATED BUT I WILL TAKE A SHOT AT IT...YES, I THINK SO,, BUT STEVE THINKS HIS LIFE INGENERAL IS NOT WORTH MUCH AS HE SMOKES AND EATS AWAY WHAT LITTLE IS LEFT...TBUK
Do you think everyone shops at walmart?YES JOEY I DO......TBUK
How much does an ounce of herb cost these days?JOEY,, YES YOU GOT ME THERE I JUST BOUGHT AN OZer OF SAFFRONE,,, AND WOW, IS THAT CRAP EXPENSIVE.... BUT WHEN YOU THINK OF HOW MANY FLOWERS IT TAKES TO MAKE A SMALL AMOUNT,,, WELL HELL THERE YOU GO''''tbuk
Why is it that californians use so much electricity?BECAUSE WERE SELF CENTERED....tbuk
How come the west coast always takes credit for something new?WE SPLIT IT WITH THE OTHER CULTERUAL CENTER New York ALL THE REST IS OREGAN AND WHATEVER MONDAINE STATE MAKES UP THE OTHER 48 tbuk
and lastly...
How come you are spelling your words out correctly these days?I TOOK SOME ADVICE FROM MIKE JACKSON AND GOT LEARENED,,,,BUT NOW THAT I CAN SPLLE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING,,,, KNOW WHAT I MEEN JOEY!!!!Twain,TBuk.
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
As far as the business of Steve & Barb (didn't they put their time into this site to make it work for others?) I think any payment is worth the effort.
Now for the prizes..I have the luck of a frenchman..None at all!!! So I can't enter your contest as I know I will not win! (Never have at anything)
But the luckiest thing I do have is good people and friends here....
Raven/2001
Sit back and be glad your not getting the snow..
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Raven/2000
Airbrushed by Raven
Lower sackville N.S.
deveausdiscovery@sprint.ca
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Karen Tighe,
Strandhill,
Sligo in the Wild Wet West of Ireland.
mIRC = cafe_cruiser
This post is to say thank you to the people who HAVE chose to NOT be a RES... I don't give a damn what there reason.... that is NOT the point....the point is they are A PART OFF US...and I reconize them.....do you?
some don't post in FEAR of there statis,,,, of the GODS''of rightest, of people such as the ones who have leep on this post as NEG...
there is NO division here other then what the management has installed...I am not questioning that...Twain,TBuk.
NOW JOEY how about a NUMBER...
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
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St.Marie Graphics
& Makin' Tracks Sound Studio
Kalispell, Montana
stmariegraphics@centurytel.net http://www.stmariegraphics.com
800 735-8026
We're chiseling every day of the week! :^)
Many times I've spent 50 bucks on something and thought it was a waste of money but this wasn't one of them. Yes we could use the site anyway...which I did for a year or two and I don't feel bad about that. I just felt it was time to help keep this site going, and if I win a CD or book along the way then that's great. Perks are nothing new...some (not all) motels give donuts and coffee, etc...but I don't ask the non-giving motels where the donuts are.
To me it's mostly a learning experience, but meeting all the people here is also a perk...and that one is free. I've read a lot of stuff here that has answered a lot of questions and usually without me having to ask them. I've saved $50 many times over in mistakes I would have made if not for this site.
What I think is wrong is when a company offers perks to "new" subscribers and the longtime loyal customers don't get them.
Well....I'm going to lunch...I have a card from Mazzios that every 7th lunch is free.
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When good things happen...that must be a sign!!
Tony McDonald
DBA-Ace Graphics & Printing
P.O. Box 91
Camdenton, MO. USA
(573) 346-6696
<daddyo@advertisnet.com>
<tony@brownbeverage.com>
I'm not going to apologize for being a "loyal". Every damned one of us deserves to make a living by getting money to live on no matter what the source. If Steve/Barb can make it happen here......good for them. If he wants ot smoke and eat till his sign is "posted",....let him. It's HIS life, not yours, bud.
I read every post and respond with whatever meager knowledge I might have to anyone who can use it. I have YET to read one single postive post from you since you came back here. Your advice has yet to be ANYthing usable.
.......and no thanks to the bar-b-q......I'm sure everyone there will be eating bar-b-q'd crow.
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St.Marie Graphics
& Makin' Tracks Sound Studio
Kalispell, Montana
stmariegraphics@centurytel.net http://www.stmariegraphics.com
800 735-8026
We're chiseling every day of the week! :^)
Perrie,,, LOL thanks for rethinking, and making good your first mistake by posting to my post....and Crow is fine with me,,,but as a geo. lesson'' that would be Ravens in my area... but you may bring a Crow if`n ya like... will trow it on the BarBee,,, and with drawn butter your in for a real treat....tbuk
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
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St.Marie Graphics
& Makin' Tracks Sound Studio
Kalispell, Montana
stmariegraphics@centurytel.net http://www.stmariegraphics.com
800 735-8026
We're chiseling every day of the week! :^)
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
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Deb
Creative Signs
"All the gold in the world cannot buy a dying man one more breath. So what does that make today worth?" Og Mandino
This is a great idea you have come up with.
I have asked before: "Why not give "visitors" a monthly drawing as well?
(I don't think anyone heard me... so I was e giving away some free downloads to residents and visitors alike.
The more traffic to a website, the better the advertising dollars from the big companies.
Sorry you are getting so much flack. You have two themes running in your opening thread. One about a contest, the other about who really is a supporter. The second theme is screwing up your good intentions.
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Draper The Signmaker
Bloomington Illinois USA
Stop in and visit a while!
309-828-7110
signman@davesworld.net
Raptorman or Draper_Dave on mIRC chat
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
Visitors AND residents are all special. However, residents need encouragement to help support this site and the draws seem to be effective. Otherwise, why pay when it's not mandatory?
I admire your intention Ted. However, I'm wondering why you take it upon yourself to have these 'draws' with money you've put out yourself. I agree, for only $20 more, you'd be a resident that would qualify for monthly big time awesome draws. In return, due to no 'extra' perks for being a visitor, others may be enticed to participate in the resident game to also have the opportunity to recieve these cool prizes as well as helping to support one heckuva site.
If the Shortreeds were millionaires, I'd still donate my $50. Simply because the value is there.
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Graphic Impact
Abbotsford, BC, Canada
gisigns@sprint.ca
4289
I like you TBUK. Enough said.
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Terry Teague
James River Signs
Reeds Spring, MO
tlteague@tri-lakes.net
But let us forget about all that for a bit,,, as a side bar' please allow me to relate something that took place the other day...
It was mid afternoon, I was enjoying a bier on top of my shop,, when the dogs started to bark. I know by there tone that I had visitors....I walk to the gate where stood a little girl quite nervous, and her Mom,,, apprehensive of my appearance......The young girl was a Girl Scout selling cookies.... I remember my daughter,,, and I could feel my eyes swell with tears....
I ask the Scout, to please give me her little speech, and beckon her Mom to step back and allow the girl the spot light..of which she did,,, and the Girl and I spoke,,, and we laugh,,. I ask her what kind of cookies she had,,,, she stumbled over some of the terms,, but we all had a good visit, and when It was said and done I purchase eight boxes @ 3.00 each...... WHY... cause I believe in the Child effort and sincerity,,, it is a good cause,,, and cause I can....
Many have Basted me today,,, for some how they see me as a NON''',,, what I do for this site, is not visible to them,,,I have no badge, by way of MY choose...
I choose to remain silent.... on how I support this site financially,,,, But in MY own defense, let me say that my fone bill each month is at least 60.00 more then it should be...for I take it upon myself to call people of this site if they are having problems,, or just need someone to bitch at....
and I,,,,, well never mind,,,
You see Donna I may not give a quarter,,, but I give most of my heart...for I have no one else....
You ask me WHY,,, Donna because I believe,, and I live by myself, I have NO one to answer to how I spend my money,,, Sep the dogs I guess"""
It is for me, a good place this Visitor thing,,, for I might represent the Meek, the hidden, the ones frighten by you'all.
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I don't care about the Tags""" I do CARE that I might be understood, and although outspoken, allowed to speak...
I do care if I am liked by the mass,,,, but I will not follow to achieve that goal...
I don't care about the perks,,, that is NOT to say they are not bitchen,,, IT is just that they have no value to me,,, I am not speaking monetarily,,,
If I were to win I would refuse the item,,, and instruct Steve to recycle it to the next drawing.....for I am not a part of this site to take,,,but rather give,,,, of myself.....and from the response of the most I reckon that worth is not appreciated,,,,,so be it''
Donna, I cherish your statement of admiration,, for I feel you are a truthful person... Thank you for your post....NOW on with the game...Twain,TBuk.
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
Come on visitors let's see who has the lucky numbers.
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Kathy Joiner
River Road Graphics
41628 River Road
Ponchatoula, La.70454
PH. (504)386-3313
casey@i-55.com
Old enough to know better...Too young to resist.
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Steve Barba is the proud owner, president, & sole employee of Sturgis Sign Works.
209 Oak Drive
Sturgis SD 57785
sbarba2616@dtgnet.com
605-720-7667
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Del "aka" badge
trimline@telusplanet.net
Holden, Alberta
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Gavin Chachere
aka Zeeman
Miller Supply Co./Ozone Signs & Grafix
New Orleans La.
www.millersupply.net
www.ozonegrafix.com
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Marc & Mike Estep
SignCrafters of London
202 E. 4th St
London Ky
mestep@kih.net
606-862-0003
Larry,,,,,
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Larry
Elliott Design
McLemoresville, Tn.
If you can't find the time to do it right,
where gonna find the time to do it over?
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Master's Touch Signs & Screenprinting
Clinton AR
5017456246
ICQ 17430008
"Imagine the Possibilities..."
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St.Marie Graphics
& Makin' Tracks Sound Studio
Kalispell, Montana
stmariegraphics@centurytel.net http://www.stmariegraphics.com
800 735-8026
We're chiseling every day of the week! :^)
I am sorry you feel you have been ignored!
I certainly don't make a thing of answering "resident" only posts. I log on most days, and if I see something I can help with or vice versa then thats great. I asked a "simple" question about a virus problem I had a couple of days ago and Mike at Translab came up trumps, I could have spent an hour trying to get thru on a support line for the same help or not, point is an hour of my time is over $50 so I reckon the help this site gives me, and the fun i have in corresponding with signmakers all over the world make it worth that to me, but that's just me. I didn't ask for a "resident" tag but its there. I understand what TBUK is trying to do and good luck to him, but I don't feel there is a them and us regards tag status. Sometimes I feel it in other ways, I have posted interesting sign topics here and got very little response, and then seen more controversial posts get megahits, but not getting a response on the board doesn't mean that people don't read your posts. I think that there are plenty who read but are a little shy to post. maybe some are shy to express an opinion for fear of being shouted down. So if Ican ever help feel free to ask, this is International, and not all things are relavant over borders!
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Henry Barker #1924
akaKaftan
SignCraft AB
Stockholm, Sweden.
A little bit of England in a corner of Stockholm
www.signcraft.se
info@signcraft.se
TBUK, My answer is 1968. & if I ever get to California again I'll take you up on that open offer of a BBQ.
Have a great day,
Steve
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Steve King
Taylor Signs Ltd.
Calgary, Alberta
Hey, we just turned 100 Years old!
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Ken Morse
Jamn Graphics
Santa Cruz, CA
RESIDENTS, I am hoping to see some new names pop up on the board or,, maybe better yet bring back some who have faded or felt not worthy because of this status thing...... We all work very hard at this trade,,, and we ALL are a part of this site..... Like a parade we all follow the same route, but there are the floats, the movie stars,,, the bands, all playing a different tune,,,, and of course the beloved Clowns....all hoping to meet up on success street,,, for a rausing good time
If you have some visitors"" that you know of'''' or have some on your post,, PLEASE ask them to stop by for a bit and drop a number,,,,this game is not about you and I it IS about unity...Twain,TBuk.
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
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LazyEdna
in RL known as Sara Straw
from southern Utah
5 National Parks within 3 hours drive
Red Rock Heaven
Cathy thanks for the support,Twain,TBuk
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
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Wright Signs
Wyandotte, Michigan
Since 1978
http://www.wrightsigns.bigstep.com
My luck has been so bad lately maybe I can improve it....my number is 5047...
Dave
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Ace of Signs
Selinsgrove, Pa.
www.aceofsigns.com
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FranCisco Vargas
aka: Cisco
aka:Traveling Millennium Sign Artist
http://www.franciscovargas.com
Fresno, CA 93703
559 252-0935
"to live life, is to love life, a sign of no life, is a sign of no love"...Cisco 12'98
Tbuk, you can greet your VISITORS, Steve and Barb to your RESIDENCE and sit down for some good grub and comradery!
hope you guys get there okay!
Deb
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Deb
Creative Signs
"All the gold in the world cannot buy a dying man one more breath. So what does that make today worth?" Og Mandino
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"A wise man once said that, or was it a wise guy?"
Ken McTague
The Witch city
Salem, MA
#1587
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Laura Butler
Vision Graphics and Sign
560 Oak St.
Lapeer, Mi 48446
810-664-3812
visiongraphics@tir.com
"Anything thats comes from my shop, comes from the right brain."
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Mike Duncan
Lettercraft Signs
Alexandria VA
I have never let schooling interfere with my education - Mark Twain
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[This message has been edited by TBUK (edited February 02, 2001).]
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Santo Brocato
Promotion Graphics & Letters
Youngsville LA.
Ace, and my good sign buddy Francisco,,, got yur number good luck...Twain,TBuk.
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
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From Katie Wright, 16 year old professional signie wannabe from Aus.
"Life is a great big canvas, throw all the paint on it that you can"
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Mike Meyer SignPainter
575 1st Street Box 3
Mazeppa, Mn 55956
(507) 843-5951
EMail-mikemeyer@sleepyeyetel.net http://www.markfair.com/mikemeyer check out this great web site..www.grainbelt.com
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
Waikoloa, Hawaii
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John Deaton III
Deaton Signs&Grafix
109 N. Cumberland Ave.,Harlan, Ky. 40831 606-573-9101
johnd31@hotmail.com
http://www.angelfire.com/ky2/dsigns
Here is my #
7007
Thanks!
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Toby Terry
Xtreme GraphiX
9011 E. 94Th Street
Tulsa, OK 74133
Xtreme@XtgraphiX.Com
918-461-2322
"If people knew how hard I worked to get my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful at all."
- Michelangelo
PLEASE do not get wrong,, this is not to encorage people to BE or NOT TO BE
It is a Thank you for the ones who post here NO mater what the TAG,,,and have NO kudules from the management,,,other then HI there watch us have a party for the REZ,,,
BUT Mike you have a life time Party Pass to my house,,,the ONLY requirment there is that you bring with you that Damn toy tracror that Mark F, is so found of.....Twain,TBuk
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Ted Bukovscak
BUKOVSCAK SIGNS
S/California
tbuk@usa.net
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Knowledge always desires increase: it is like fire, which must first be kindled by some external agent, but which will afterwards propagate itself.
Johnson, Letter to William Drummond 1766
I'm only doing this for Ashley on "the Young and the Breastless"
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St.Marie Graphics
& Makin' Tracks Sound Studio
Kalispell, Montana
stmariegraphics@centurytel.net http://www.stmariegraphics.com
800 735-8026
We're chiseling every day of the week! :^)
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Karen Tighe,
Strandhill,
Sligo in the Wild Wet West of Ireland.
mIRC = cafe_cruiser