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Posted by Christian Slager (Member # 1074) on :
 
ok. i've recently found a product that i lovvvvvvvvvve. and sell alot of. and i was wondering if it's kosher that i give the company a plug here. there has been alot of whining lately about supplier posts etc. so rather than making you all, my hero's mad at me, im asking permission to post their web addy, phone number etc. thanks
Christian

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Christian S.
Budget Signs & Graphics
Bradenton, Florida
BudgetSigns.Graphics@verizon.net

 

Posted by Mark Smith (Member # 298) on :
 
Not only would i like to know the product of which you speak, I would like to take an opportunity to say the following:

IMHO, preventing sign makers from sharing successes with products just because the product manufacturer doesn't financially support the forum in which the sign maker is speaking is tantamount to censorship and I don't like it.

Naturally I understand the logic behind a decision like that but I think it's bad news anyway. After all, we're allowed to slam them if we don't like them, right? Just not plug them unless they pony up.

I feel like I have the "right" to say this because I AM a paid merchant, AND a paid resident ( I make signs too ), and I'm tired of seeing this censorship happen.

'Nuff said.

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Mark Smith
Ampersand Signs & Design
EstiMate Sign Estimating Software
www.ampweb.com/estimate
1-888-304-3300
Hailing from beautiful Asheville, N.C.


 

Posted by Pierre St.Marie (Member # 1462) on :
 
YEAH!! ME too!! pound pound pound pound. those are all lower case the because I'm pounding sand, which is very quiet.

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St.Marie Graphics
& Makin' Tracks Sound Studio
Kalispell, Montana
stmariegraphics@centurytel.net http://www.stmariegraphics.com
800 735-8026
We're chiseling every day of the week! :^)



 

Posted by Barry Branscum (Member # 445) on :
 
lol pierre very low key......shhhhhh everyone, pierre is ranting.

heheh

Barry

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Master's Touch Signs & Screenprinting
Clinton AR
5017456246
ICQ 17430008
"Imagine the Possibilities..."



 

Posted by Christian Slager (Member # 1074) on :
 
i received an email that said i should have asked steve. so i shall do this first. sorry to have caused a ruccus.... and for "taking up space to see my name" hahahha
Christian

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Christian S.
Budget Signs & Graphics
Bradenton, Florida
BudgetSigns.Graphics@verizon.net

 

Posted by Mike Pipes [in a cubicle] (Member # 1841) on :
 
heeeeeeeeeeey. if you have great results with a product I wanna hear about it cause chances are I wanna use it too!! =)

Drop me an email if you dont get the OK to post it. =)

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Mike Pipes
-----trapped in a box with a computer and a slice of cheese-----
 

Posted by Brad Farha (Member # 931) on :
 
Good grief! It's ridiculous IMO that anyone should feel that they must ask to post something like this. Post on, vinylman.

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Brad Farha, owner
Farha Signs
Beckley, WV
304-252-3778
farhasigns@citynet.net
 

Posted by Christian Slager (Member # 1074) on :
 
the product of which i speak is called
Mr. Post. (thats the company name too)
they make GREAT pvc yard arms and other products for real estate use.
the trick is... there is no digging involved! there is a 1" metal rod in the center of the post, along with a driving mechagnism... you just move the post up and down, and it sinks the rod...
i called them and told them they should become members here... if you want more info... phone number, web addy etc. email me and ill be glad to send it to ya.
they also make a mailbox stand and some other cool stuff.

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Christian S.
Budget Signs & Graphics
Bradenton, Florida
BudgetSigns.Graphics@verizon.net

 

Posted by Steve Shortreed (Member # 436) on :
 
Talked to Christian and Mark on the phone today. They now understand how silly and untrue this issue of censureship really is. I've addressed this many times, but it just won't go away.

We never delete posts that may or may not be baltant advertising. They are moved to the Supplier's Soapbox. There has been a couple instances where that hasn't worked and I can't explain it. There is no conspiracy.

If you search the BB database of past posts, you will find all sorts of reference to products that do not advertise here. Yes, it does drive me up the wall to see the same old suppliers get free promotion here while good Merchants pay. It's especially irritating to see direct links to their expensive websites. Despite this, our policy is to let them go or move them to the Supplier's Soapbox.

I too am concerned about censureship. Looking through all of last months sign mags, I can only find info about Letterville in SignCraft. Why is any mention of Letterville censured from the rest? It sucks that these valuable sign resources demand to be paid to promote Letterville! It's just not fair I tell you!

Look gang. As long as you do not have any financial or other vested interest to the supplier you want to mention, you are breaking no rules here. If you are not sure, just e-mail Barb and I.

Why arn't you calling these suppliers with the great products and telling them about the benefits of advertising here. It's only $365 a year! We'll convince them to give Letterville Residents a special discount and we'll all win. Have them mention your name when they call and we'll send you $50 to have a dinner on us!

I'm sick of apoligizing for the success of this website. Letterville is the #1 sign website in the World, yet some of you seem to feel it should all be free. Is there something wrong with making a profit?

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Steve Shortreed
144 Hill St., E.
Fergus, Ontario
Canada N1M 1G9
519-787-2673
steve@letterhead.com
ICQ 316338
www.letterhead.com/profiles/shortreed/



 

Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :
 
Steve,

I've kinda felt the same way - having to tip-toe mentioning a company's name. I did it a couple years ago (I had no vested interest at anytime) and I got slammed by you. Perhaps things have changed since you added the "Supplier's Soapbox". Its still just hard to fight that "cringe" feeling I get when I do mention a "non-advertiser's" name. "Once bitten, twice shy" so to speak.

Anyhow, that's about it. And please don't take anything I've said personally. I'm just expressing how I've felt.

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Warning: A well designed sign may cause fatigue due to increased business.
http://members.tripod.com/taylor_graphics
walldog@geeksnet.com


[This message has been edited by Glenn Taylor (edited December 15, 2000).]
 

Posted by Steve Shortreed (Member # 436) on :
 
No need to cringe Glenn. I'll be the first to admit this whole internet game is new to all of us. There is a feeling out there that everything should be wide open and free on the Net. Saw a biography on Bill Gates last night. He was once hated for even suggesting software should be free.

If Letterville is to grow and blossom into all we dream it can be, it's going to take money. We need income to look after our family and invest in the website. Adverstising is one form of income. The question that always goes through our head when we see these plugs is "Why would I pay to advertise when others will do it for me for free?" It's a valid question.

For the most part, we just scream and accept it at our end. To be honest, there are certain suppliers that have made it crystal clear that they have no interest in Letterville. When I see them getting free links, there are times I lose it. Many of you longtime Residents and Visitors know what I am talking about, but many of you have know idea what goes on behind the scenes.

So what is the answer? I say go ahead and mention a good product or service. Be certain you have no vested interest in the product and that you have a signature file in place.

Can I suggest that after you plug a product you contact that supplier and tell them about Letterville? We're looking for a few good Merchants that will offer Letterville Residents a discount and extra good service. They can still still set up shop in Letterville for as little as $365 a year. Compare that to any other form of advertising available and you will soon see what a bargain that is.

There's more! You sell them on the benefits of becoming a Merchant and we'll pay you $50. Just have them mention your name when they sign on.

Any more questions or ideas? Let's talk.

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Steve Shortreed
144 Hill St., E.
Fergus, Ontario
Canada N1M 1G9
519-787-2673
steve@letterhead.com
ICQ 316338
www.letterhead.com/profiles/shortreed/



 

Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :
 
Thanks Steve.

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Warning: A well designed sign may cause fatigue due to increased business.
http://members.tripod.com/taylor_graphics
walldog@geeksnet.com



 

Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
 
as a non user of bill gates' products and only a casual interest in what he does, it appears he got over his feeling that software should be free..hahaha...howard hughes would be considered a pauper in comparison

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Don Coplen aka "SaintPete"
Coplen Designs
St.Petersburg, FL dcoplen@mindspring.com

13.7¢ a day to support this site that does so much for so many? Count me in! Another proud supporter of this great site and all it stands for!


 

Posted by Bill Biggs (Member # 18) on :
 
My Dad always said two things that I still remember, Can't help it heard them about three times a day for 20 years LOL.
(One) There is No Free Lunch!
(Two) You don't always get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get!
Bill

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Bill & Barbara Biggs
Art's Sign Service, Inc.
Clute, Texas, USA
Home of The Great Texas Mosquito Festival
Proud second year Supporter of the Letterheads Website
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