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Posted by tmtubbs (Member # 577) on :

I have experimented with surface gold leaf on glass. I laid the surface gold onto the water size and it grabed the gold right off it's carrier sheet easily. I pulled the carrier sheet away and the gold was undamaged. Once dried, and burnished slightly it looked pretty good.

Has anyone else ever done this, and what problems would one encounter if using surface gold this way.

Question #2
Does anyone out there use vinyl out lines for
glass guilding. Tried it once and hated it.
The edges of the vinyl seemed to give me trouble. Maybe there is too much of a gap between the top of the vinyl edge and the surface of the glass. It seems to create ragged edges between the outline and the gold.
I usually use screened outlines when I can, this must work better because the outline are probably rounded. After the screen lifts off the surface of the glass, the edges must round off as the ink takes on its liquid form while drying. Thats my theory anyway.

I definately could be wrong.

Anybody else experimented with this?
Or, got any other experiments with gold that you think are succesful?

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Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :

Don't use suface (patent leaf) on any glass job that will be seen "close up"!!!! Some of the powder used to help it release from the backing paper will show up in the finished work!!!

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Posted by Jerry Mathel (Member # 526) on :

Si is right that you don't want to use patent leaf for glass gilding, but some gilders prefer to roll loose leaf right out of the book rather than lay it on with a gilder's tip. Stephen Parrish was a very well known gold leaf man in the midwest who always used this method.

There are some advantages and disadvantages to this method. I occasionally do it this way when I have problems with wind. On the other hand, Rick Glawson can pick up a full leaf with a gilder's tip in a virtual windstorm and not have a bit of trouble. There are a couple of things you have to especially watch if you roll the leaf right out of the book. One is that you don't let the rouge paper touch the size and the other is that you don't tear the leaf as you lay it down.

The only difference between surface gold (in loose leafs) and window gold is the quality. Historicly window gold has less holidays in it than surface gold. However some of the surface gold presently on the market is actually better than a lot of the window gold I have used. Guisto Manetti 23k surface gold has been especially good.

When using heavier materials like varigated leaf or copper or aluminum leaf I almost always work right out of the book.

Jerry Mathel
Jerry Mathel Signs
Grants Pass, Oregon
signs@grantspass.com

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