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Posted by Christian Slager (Member # 1074) on :
 
ok...
here goes...

currently i design my digital orders...(which i didnt even do ANY digital before the beginning of this year, it was my new years resolution) and send them off to a local computer store, which happens to be owned by a friend of mines dad... and they have a big ole printer that they use to print out my stuff for me. its really taking off... and i want to get my own equipment...
it seems that the majority of my work is banners... and color logos for vehicles and stuff...

now ive heard a lot of people talking about "how they had a roland and something else and didnt make any money, but got an edge and its paid for itself in a month" and all kindsa wacky stories like that... and other stories about how the edges output lasts much longer.... and the cost of production for edge stuff is so much less than inkjet...

but daaaaang its expensive! ehehhe
and someone mentioned dicojet inks... supposedly have an outdoor life of 3 years, unlaminated... well i live in florida, so if they say 3, ill give em 2 max. and then i compaired output costs..... i have an Advantage Sign Supply catalogue, that says an edge print on high performance vinyl costs..... $1.83/ft.
and then i have the chart from GBC signwarehouse's webpage that says... a square foot print on high performance, using a chroma 24, or i signjet pro, with GO inks.. which seem to be the same price as the DicoJet inks... costs $1.86/sq ft.
so uhm, wheres the BIG difference?

it seems to be a logical ENTRY into the field... to buy like a chroma 24 with a bulk ink system and get the DicoJet inks? or am i reading my facts wrong? as i said, my major sales right now for digital does seem to be banners... which dont need to be die cut...... so i could just print em out on the chroma 24 and be done... and the few decals i do can be hand trimmed around (ive done it, if you know what you are doing, its not hard :-) point me in the right direction folks, im leaning on you! eheh later!
christian

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Christian S.
Budget Signs & Graphics
5320 14th St. W., Bradenton, Fl
signs01@gte.net
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Posted by Bob Burns (Member # 268) on :
 
If you're gonna do banners, I would recommend getting a piezo-head inkjet that'll handle at least a 36"banner. You don't need one that cuts AND prints, but it WOULD be handy.
Durability isn't normally much of a factor with banners, but getting them out fast IS...
and an inkjet should do the job.

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Bob Burns
Bob Burns Signs
LETTERCRAFT SIGN SYSTEMS
www.lettercraft.com
1619 Oregon Ave.
Prescott, Az 86305
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Posted by Jackie B (Member # 186) on :
 
It depends on what the lengivity of the banner required. If your're simply doing a quick fix banner for less than a year, ink jet is OK. but without UV lamination, your'e gonna loose business. Why not do vinyl? What kind of shop are you running? Design on inkjet or are you into looking at vinyl prospects? Vinyl will last much longer, plus the applications can be used for much more than just banners.
Good ol' airbrush and paint is the ultimate, but you need skill, not just a PC to create.
It really depends on the quality, ability, and where you want to go with your shop.
Expanding your horizons sounds like some good advice at this point.
Please don't take this wrong . . . but if you're only making inkjet prints at this point, I highly suggest alternatives and more education to produce a quality product.
You can easily find the education here, by simply asking.
the Bomb

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aka The Bomb
Volcano, California
www.spectrix1.com
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Posted by Stephen Deveau (Member # 1305) on :
 
Hey Jack
glad to hear someone else say Good old Airbrush and paints...I use them to the max and can reproduces alot of images alittle more time consuming. But the customer pays for it in the end and gets better life out of the banner..Hands on is what I say..

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Raven/2000
Airbrushed by Raven
Lower sackville N.S.
deveausdiscovery@sprint.ca

 

Posted by Dave Draper (Member # 102) on :
 
Hey Vinylman,

We have and Edge (3.5) years and it has made a big difference in our biz. It didn't pay itself off as quick as some of the others on the BB ...but it did keep us in business with new markets that opened up to us.

We are, just like you, looking for the right equipment to take us down the road the next few years. Digital printed banners are so hot and in demand that you an me are just going to have to take the plunge. But I want to be able to print a 4' x 8' sign(s) as well as smaller banners.

There is more work now with color photos on signs that airbrushers just cant do. Plus when a customer wants 10 banners at a time, you can't screw around with cut vinyl letters. We are finding the need to produce a 4'x8' sign in 1 hour....8 per day....and I'm sure that will be considered slow in a year or 2!

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