That Water Based Size,,,I really don't like it. It ruins my brushes, ya can't see the holidays and it seeps under tape. Yeah, it drys fast, but it seems to 85% of the time give me priblems.
Posted by Chuck Peterson (Member # 70) on :
I tried a paint mask a couple times so I could use a throw away brush. It pulls up the size when you lift it unless you pull while it's wet but you only have about 10 seconds. I wash my brush about twice a minute. I still use it for some things.
[ July 26, 2017, 07:48 PM: Message edited by: Chuck Peterson ]
Posted by Jean Shimp (Member # 198) on :
Seems like I've had the best luck with the oil based Rolco sizes.
Posted by Gerald Barlow (Member # 3477) on :
I was told by Rick Glawson that water acrylic size was the best thing for aluminum leaf which in Cali is a big automotive(lowrider)thing. Oil size doesn't seem to grab aluminum well. I've tried it and had lots of problems. It has to be very fresh. Shelf life is short. Yes it bleeds easily. Yes it has holidays due to water/silicone probs. I use Letterhead supply size and it works well with everything I do.
Posted by stein Saether (Member # 430) on :
An easy and beutiful gilding, but very different from oil. Those acrylsizes I have seen stay milkcolored as long as they are brusable. Mask maybe difficult, but try to get as little buildup along the edges as possible. For small gilding I remove the mask while the size is still wet, for bigger I dont use mask. . And I allways have a glass of water by my side, keeping the brush clean.
Posted by Preston McCall (Member # 351) on :
Alicia, I have been gold leafing many picture frames, as you may recall. As crazy as this sounds, I use a good polyethylene vanish where I mix in some hardener. It sets up still sticky after a side or two of a frame being gilded. Two coats first. It is clear, but I also add some indian yellow oil paint or burnt umber to tint it enough to see where it is. It dies hard quicker....maybe in two hours, after I gilt the area and I final glaze or varnish it with the same, but just clear. I am using imitation leaf when I over varnish. If I get real creative, I sometimes use my finger to press in the leaf to give it interesting textures. I just recently bought a gallon of some automotive clear urethane clear that supposedly is much better at not turning yellow. I have a test on white coreplas out in the sun with various clears and this new one seems to be the best. The Rustoleum clear urethane turns yellow way too fast for me, but over imitation leaf, that is a nice effect....like more of an amber color, but still shiny gold. If you want more info, call me at the gallery.
Posted by Chuck Peterson (Member # 70) on :
The ancient Egyptians used blood for size.
Posted by Don Hulsey (Member # 128) on :
yeah, but I bet they still had to clean their quills pretty often. Posted by DianeBalch (Member # 1301) on :
egg whites,have been used as size.
Posted by Dave Grundy (Member # 103) on :
Diane, I might be wrong, but I thought egg whites or potato starch were used to stop gold skewings from sticking to un-sized/unwanted areas?
[ August 02, 2017, 11:55 PM: Message edited by: Dave Grundy ]
Posted by DianeBalch (Member # 1301) on :
I have a friend whose father had used egg whites as size for gold leaf ( probably back in the 1940's). I never tried it . I have used potato juice to,prevent tine gold from sticking. Egg whites are really hard to wash off if it ihas dried, ( my parents house was egged one Halloween, it was hard to remove especially on asbestos siding --- many small grooves. The kids who did the egging, had to clean it off about 3weeks later. They were not happy.
Posted by DianeBalch (Member # 1301) on :
I have a friend whose father had used egg whites as size for gold leaf ( probably back in the 1940's). I never tried it . I have used potato juice to,prevent tine gold from sticking. Egg whites are really hard to wash off if it ihas dried, ( my parents house was egged one Halloween, it was hard to remove especially on asbestos siding --- many small grooves. The kids who did the egging, had to clean it off about 3weeks later. They were not happy.
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