I bought a new can of Kool Crimson one shot(needed a darker red color)and did some lettering with it on a sign(bibond). Darn crap isnt drying. Painted about 10:30 am and its still tacky big time at 8:00 pm. Crap! All my other oneshot drys pretty fast. The kool crimson was mixed good too.
I have been meaning to try some Ronan. Got a color chart and price sheet from them already.
Im west coast so no one carrys it. I'll have to buy direct from Ronan back east
Is Ronan a way better paint then this newer one shot ?
[ November 11, 2016, 10:48 PM: Message edited by: Rick B ]
Posted by Curt Stenz (Member # 82) on November 12, 2016 10:37 AM:
Rick, I have been using Ronan for 2 years now and will never go back. It is a pain if you need a can or two, but I plan ahead and order plenty of inventory.
I still have some 1-shot that am using up. The other week I experienced the same drying problem with some 'bright red', lettered in the morning and it did not cover well at all, could not double coat until the next day.
Posted by Bruce Evans (Member # 44) on November 12, 2016 11:28 PM:
Rick, I believe McLogan carries Ronan here on the west coast.
Posted by Alicia B. Jennings (Member # 1272) on November 13, 2016 07:37 PM:
I have had the same problem with Red 1-Shot, but I have since fixed it. I use 1-Shot hardener in the paint. I lived in the cool dampness of the Great Northwest.
Posted by Rick B (Member # 26430) on November 13, 2016 08:25 PM:
Thanks for the info
It's dry enough now, took about a day and a half
Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on November 14, 2016 08:47 AM:
McLogan's carries the bulletin colors and not the lettering colors.
Posted by Dave Sherby (Member # 698) on November 16, 2016 01:26 PM:
I'm also on the Ronan train and will not go back to One Shot. I know Ronan lettering enamel is harder to find than their bulletin colors though. I too had to order direct from Ronan. And I've also had problems with One Shot red drying. I used some Ronan red on 18 golf tee signs and it was dry to the touch in less than half a day.
Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on November 18, 2016 08:51 AM:
Many of the Ronan colors don't have as good a coverage as 1-Snot, and require a second coat if using for background colors. They do lay out real smooth and glossy, and dry. I recently bought a gallon of Chromatic background white and looked at the invoice (which I seldom do) and see that we're now spending $80 on that product?
Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on November 19, 2016 08:44 AM:
I wonder if the folks in Europe and down under have a better brand of lettering color that we can't get here?
Posted by David Harding (Member # 108) on November 19, 2016 03:16 PM:
I've read here that spritzing hydrogen peroxide on tacky paint will often get it to dry to the touch. I had some aqua paint that wouldn't finish drying and tried it and it worked.
Posted by Rick B (Member # 26430) on November 20, 2016 09:50 AM:
quote:Many of the Ronan colors don't have as good a coverage as 1-Snot
Rick,,, Any particular Ronan colors that dont cover as good?
Are you talking about their Lettering enamel?
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I should ask them what is the difference between their lettering enamel and the bulletin colors besides just colors available and can size
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Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on November 20, 2016 10:01 AM:
we just coated some panels with the med. brown. Nowhere near as rich a color as 1-Shot either.
Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on November 20, 2016 12:54 PM:
I remember when there were color standards. If I bought a can of 102, from several manufacturers, they'd all be the same. Doesn't seem to work that way anymore.
Posted by Dave Sherby (Member # 698) on November 20, 2016 01:03 PM:
Yep, colors aren't the same. Big difference between Ivory One Shot and Ivory Ronan. Ronan doesn't have as large a variety of colors as One Shot but I mix what I want most of the time anyway.
Bulletin paint is cheaper because it's designed to be a background paint for billboards. Pigment content is lower than lettering enamels. This info came right from the chemist of the manufacturer.
Posted by Rick B (Member # 26430) on November 20, 2016 10:07 PM:
quote: Bulletin paint is cheaper because it's designed to be a background paint for billboards. Pigment content is lower than lettering enamels. This info came right from the chemist of the manufacturer.
Right on ! Just what I needed to know
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Posted by David Harding (Member # 108) on November 21, 2016 05:43 PM:
I was also told the same thing by a higher up at one paint company. He also said the components are of lesser durability because they were designed for the old bulletins that would only be up a few months before they were painted over with a new message. He said they will chalk quicker.
Posted by Curt Stenz (Member # 82) on November 21, 2016 09:31 PM:
As far as color standards, I believe that years ago, before digital billboards, EVERYTHING was painted, and the Outdoor Advertising Association was at the forefront of maintaining these color standards. Sort of like a prehistoric version of Pantone.
As far as brown, I never liked any of the browns available. Always mix my own, usually Ronan scarlet red (1-shot fire red) and black.
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