Anyone use this color lately? It should be called "Three Shot" because that's how many coats I have to use now to get it to cover. It's practically translucent. Didn't used to be this way.
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
i got some of the "old stuff" was in a green labled 1-shot quart can. i think i got a life time(what i got left)supply. hahahahahahaha
Posted by Dave Sherby (Member # 698) on :
Just wait. It lasts one year for each coat... at best. We may be saved though. PPG bought One Shot and we can only hope they will restore it to it's past glory. PPG is no stranger to sign painting. They own Mathews paint which has been a standard in the sign industry for spraying long lasting polyurethane paint on architectural and electric signs.
Posted by Preston McCall (Member # 351) on :
I have one dark green sign that is still up, in the sun, no less....from 1979! The green is still holding up fine. The plywood has buckled and the corners are ragged, but the 'watch' is still ticking.
Posted by Dave Sherby (Member # 698) on :
Preston, it really was great paint back then.
Posted by Alicia B. Jennings (Member # 1272) on :
I didn't know PPG bought 1-Shot. Nobody tells me anything. In my stash of 1-Shot, I have an up-opened gallon of emerald green,,,,,with,, the ,,,lead still in it. One day, like a very fine old bottle of wine, I will open it and sniff it's aromas.
Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on :
We're doing several dark green boards now and tried using Ronan bulletin color. It requires a couple coats also, but does have a real nice solid gloss. I also like their color better than 1 shot, which is much bluer.
Posted by Gerald Barlow (Member # 3477) on :
While I have several shelves of One-Shot, I do most of my sign backgrounds in urethane at a body shop. I also have found that coating with urethane clear is the longest lasting surface I can offer. i don't expect to be doing this for much longer (Signs) and I think it's just about over. They'll just wrap it.
Posted by Kent Smith (Member # 251) on :
Just a bit of trivia. PPG made bulletin enamels in the 40's and 50's as well as supplying resin and pigments to many small manufacturers. Every major manufacturer was making sign paint well into the 60's as a secondary line, some of which was just a private label fill. I too am hopeful that they will be able to use their resources to properly follow the formulae and correctly manufacture the paints.
Posted by Pam Eddy (Member # 1858) on :
I haven't bought any new green lately but the 2 quarts of black I bought a few months ago has the consistancy of pudding. Does not flow well with a brush even with thinning. I too hope PPG will get One Shot back on track.
Posted by Dave Sherby (Member # 698) on :
Ronan also makes lettering enamels. They are not real easy to find as most suppliers carry One Shot lettering enamels and Ronan Bulletin colors. I get Ronan lettering enamels right from the factory. They seem to be as good as One Shot was right after they took the lead out.
Posted by Curt Stenz (Member # 82) on :
I got tired of waiting around for 1-shot to improve. The last 5 years I patiently waited for a better product, but after having signs completely fade and change color, and having to re-do several jobs, my perspective changed. I love the logo and the yellow cans, but I find Ronan to be a cut above.
And Alicia, I also have some unopened cans of the old stuff with lead... but I just cannot get myself to use them. Like an old coin, it they just sit there.
Posted by Bill Reusch (Member # 8028) on :
I have a few cans with the lead too, probably because they are salmon pink and coral. I thought emerald green never had lead or maybe it was one of the first colors to go leadfree?
Posted by Bill Reusch (Member # 8028) on :
Another thing with the dark green. when Chromatic and OneShot went together it wasn't long and the 1 shot looked more like Chromatics dark green. Ronans dark green seems to look like old 1 shot dark green.
Posted by Kent Smith (Member # 251) on :
I have been getting some good quality product from Ronan, especially Japan colors.
On another note, about the time Spraylat merged Chromatic into the OneShot family, the last of the Chrome Green pigments went away for all manufacturers. I assume then that OneShot had to begin using the synthetic pigment we were using.
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
some old stuff.... Posted by Kent Smith (Member # 251) on :
I also have Benj Moore, Dutch Boy, Cook, Martin, Murphy, Blick, Acme bulletin, Sherwin Williams, Mobil, PPG, McMurtry, Valspar, Komac, Skoler, Mass. Paint, Reich, Kemp, and many others. All are put away in boxes but maybe I will photo them sometime in the next 10 years or so.
Posted by ScooterX (Member # 2023) on :
I actually got a phone call this morning from a PPG guy who deals with 1-Shot! (I had emailed them with a string of recent paint failure problems.) It was prompted by a window job that took FOUR coats of Kool Krimson to achieve opacity.
I too am hopeful that PPG will put some new life into the sign coatings segment of their business. I told them I'd be happy if they just offered the 52 pre-mix 1-Shot colors in the Matthews formulation, but available in quarts and pints.
In the mean time, any suggestions on what I should do with the 52 cans of paint I've got in the paint cabinet?
