Anyone here have experience with graphics imbedded in ice????
I was recently asked to make in ice graphics for the local curling rink. Apparently the previous supplier used a regular desktop inkjet printer/paper and they seemed to be imbedded in the ice quite nicely so I will experiment with it before I make a commitment.
Any tips welcome!
Posted by Craig Sjoquist (Member # 4684) on :
There is a paint for that it came up before ... but might take a bit for me to find might try Google
Posted by Marty Happy (Member # 302) on :
I should have mentioned that I'm aware of special paint for painting the lines and large graphics but I'm asking about smaller advertising that is imbedded in the ice.
Posted by Chuck Churchill (Member # 68) on :
It seems to me that you would want to encapsulate anything going under water in laminate. Water will suck the ink right out of the paper (and make a mess of the paper also).
Posted by Marty Happy (Member # 302) on :
The little I know about this process is that laminating will not work as that will cause the ice to seperate and crack or chip off. I'm aware that major arenas use mesh graphics that allow the ice to adhere to itself through the graphics. As I mentioned previously someone had supplied the small local rink with regular desktop inkjet prints which were assembled and placed into the ice. The rink personnel do not know if the paper and ink were specially treated to resist running. This person who supplied them is no longer around here and took his secrets with him so I'm wondering if anyone else has any thoughts. I am just setting up to do some experiments and can let y'all know what I learn. I'm still accepting suggestions!
Can you tell I'm not busy to even accept such project?(LOL)
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
Print some up ... then go out in the back yard and make a mini rink and try it.
Posted by Marty Happy (Member # 302) on :
That's what I'm doing, Si!
Posted by Graham Parsons (Member # 1129) on :
Marty,
We did some recently. Printed on to paper on our Roland. The eco-sol inks don't run. The prints were then run over with a wallpaper scorer - the sort that looks like a computer mouse, and has what is basically pounce wheels underneath. I guess you could even use a pounce tool? Anyway, the holes allow the water to come through, and prevent air bubbles trapped under the paper. Seems to work!
Posted by Lori Wilcox (Member # 8042) on :
We do the graphics for our curling rink - cut or printed vinyl logo applied to clear vinyl and they asked us to punch holes to allow the water to float out from under the decal. We use cheap Oracal or 3mil with the cheapest clear possible. They install and squeegee the water out - they look fabulous!
Posted by Stu Friesen (Member # 6358) on :
We print on Roland 54" paper as well as on mesh banner and have never had any issues with under ice graphics for both curling rinks and hockey arenas.
Posted by Tony Teveris (Member # 2911) on :
I've seen Gerber EDGE prints in ice, no lame, etc
Posted by Mark Pinkse (Member # 1204) on :
Well what I do is print with my Roland on heavy "interfacing" that is used in sewing - available at any fabric store though ihave only found it in a 24" width. It is pourus, prints well on hi quality setting ( put premask on bed of machine as some ink does go through) and when they melt the ice out it is reusable. Tested it 2 years ago on my own out door rink and work really well. Sold a bunch to my local curling rink.
Posted by Neil D. Butler (Member # 661) on :
I have them bring 4xx8 sheets of ice to me and we print directly on the ice with our Versacamm.
Posted by Raymond Chapman (Member # 361) on :
Neil...Neil...Neil.
Posted by Kelly Thorson (Member # 2958) on :
That's the Newfie way. Posted by Neil D. Butler (Member # 661) on :
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