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Posted by Bobbie Rochow (Member # 3341) on :
 
OK, you guys can tear me up if this is foolish of me, but I want to coat out my sign with latex first, then after it is dried, use my One Shot on top. He wants the signs by Friday, & I want the background dry quick enough to lay the other graphics on top, for them to be dry by Friday. Will this work ok, given the length of time the latex stays tacky? I plan on painting the boards white latex in the early day, then use the One Shot in the evening after the latex has sat with a fan blowing on it all day.

I would use latex all the way, but the boards are supposed to look like windows with panes between them. I am much better painting straight clean lines with One Shot. Adding a bit of hardener to it ought to help it to dry by the next day, right?

Let's say I decide to use all latex...can I use that blue painter's tape to tape my lines without it picking the fresh-2-hour-dried-latex back up when I pull it up?

Still not sure whast I am going to do, hope some of you have tried using both together.
 
Posted by Preston McCall (Member # 351) on :
 
1. You will pick up the latex on latex with tape. Gotta dry a week or so. Has anyone tried adding hardener to latex??? Has anyone tried dusting it down with talcum powder befre tape??? One of those colored tapes at Home Depot talks like it is less tacky and better for latex over latex?

2. Try coating the sign out with poster enamel, if you want to letter enamel over it soon. Yes, hardener will cause lettering to set up faster. How about bulletin enamel??? I never use it. What is the difference between poster and bulletin in terms of adhesion. I know poster is dead flat.

3. oil over latex always pops off in no time. I latex primed my deck swing and then used lettering over it and in six months it was peeling and poping off. Now latex over enamel? It would provbably stick, if the oil was set up and you roughed it up. Latex seems to stick better to about anything.
 
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
 
Bobbie ... repeat after me "Screw ups on your part do not make it an emergency on my part!"

In order to get the job done by Friday (? maybe) Prime it with a primer made for latex, let it dry properly then coat it out with latex.

Let it dry at least one full day then use the blue painter's tape and 1Shot.

quote:

"Oil base over latex is OK.

Latex over oil base is only temporary!"


 
Posted by Preston McCall (Member # 351) on :
 
Listen to Si. He knows the drill very well. Try it and make it happen.
 
Posted by bruce ward (Member # 1289) on :
 
latex over enamel is NOT correct. Latex under enamel would work. Ive used latex as a primer many times a couple years back with no probs.

latex will be fine for your project. paint it and throw it out in sun. next time stop doin rush jobs
 
Posted by Bobbie Rochow (Member # 3341) on :
 
Thank you. Bruce, you are right. I do NOT like rush jobs, but this is one of my biggest customers, & I have been doing jobs for them for about 8 years now. Maybe he needs to get the job orders to me sooner, & if I do NOT make the deadline, he will see that.
 
Posted by Dale Feicke (Member # 767) on :
 
Hey Bobbie,

Why don't you cut stripes out of vinyl for the divider strips between the "panes"? That way, all you'll have to worry about drying is the background paint.
 
Posted by Ed Gregorowicz (Member # 1842) on :
 
Try spraying the panels with Acrylic Enamel... properly catalyzed, and with a fast enough reducer, you'll have a superior background to work with in less than 8 hours.
 
Posted by Jane Diaz (Member # 595) on :
 
We've had great luck with the Novacolor paint (latex). You can tape on it after a couple hours and the colors have great coverage. Make sure you order the opaque. I know that doesn't help you now, but in the future you might look into it.
www.novacolorpaint.com
 
Posted by Dana Stanley (Member # 6786) on :
 
For my money I would go all latex!
 
Posted by stein Saether (Member # 430) on :
 
acryl over oil is fine, gotta be real dry first though, and buffed
 
Posted by Bill Davidson (Member # 531) on :
 
It's Friday here! Too late. BUT. I used to spray my rush job panels with automotive acrylic enamel WithOut a hardener, set it in the sun, and be able to letter in a couple of hours.
 


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