We've been visiting the litter since they were 3 weeks old and just had to wait for the holidays to be over to bring her home. She'll be 12 weeks old tomorrow. She is VERY smart - she can already sit!
This is from when she was about 5 weeks old...
Posted by Donna in BC (Member # 130) on :
Congrats! She even looks smart! What's her name?
Posted by Bec Bermudez (Member # 8219) on :
Her name is "Ever"! I've always loved that name, in fact that was almost Phoebe's name! Haha. However it fits here because it's short for Mt. Everest - the tallest peak in the Himalayas!
Posted by Bruce Bowers (Member # 892) on :
Himalayan Sheep Dog? Looks more like a Himasittin' Sheep Dog to me... LOL!
Cute pup!
Posted by Dana Bowers (Member # 780) on :
Never heard of the breed! It sounds like there is no standard for them - are they registered anywhere?
Interesting to see different, uncommon breeds. That's what I like about IABCA and UKC shows!
My newest intrigues are the Podengo Pequeno and the Norwegian Lundehund!
Congrats on the new puppy!!
Posted by Duncan Wilkie (Member # 132) on :
Congratulations, Ever is a great looking pup. Full grown, she should be about the same size as your horses. Posted by Bec Bermudez (Member # 8219) on :
LOL Bruce!
Dana - it takes many years to create a stable gene-pool by importing, then adopting a breed standard and then getting set up with the Kennel Clubs. Once you are set up you have to close your stud-book, so you've got to have your gene pool imported first. I figure it will take 10 - 20 years being "illegitimate" until that point, in order to get enough dogs involved. ;-) It is not cheap to import! I may get involved in that aspect of it in a few years. Not with Ever though. I would import a breeding pair.
These dogs are registerable in India. They are one of four breeds recently featured on postage stamps there.
My friend is utterly infatuated with Podengos and has been for years - they are really neat!
Duncan - yep! She'll be overtaking Mulligan in a couple months I think! Hahaha.
Posted by Jon Butterworth (Member # 227) on :
Cute dog! And daughter too of course!
I was born in Simila India, 7000ft ft up in the Himilayas! Never heard of that breed or even seeing anything like it in old family photos. New one on me!
We did have a "Tibetain Terrier" tho. Coat so thick and long you could not figure out which end was which until she barked!
Great watch-dog tho, like all Terriers.
Posted by Bec Bermudez (Member # 8219) on :
That's cool Jon!
They are commonly known as Bhutias, or Bhotias way up there and come in a full-coat variety more common in the mountains of course. (Ever will likely be a smooth and there is a silky too.) This is Ever's dad, Cricket. He is right from India and has a full coat, does he seem more familiar?...
Posted by Donna in BC (Member # 130) on :
I knew it would be a cool name complete with deep meaning. I like it!
Among unique names, I've always liked Seven. Heard it first on Seinfeld. That would be my deep meaning. Sad huh?
Posted by Jon Butterworth (Member # 227) on :
Yeah, starts to ring bells. Think our neighbours back in those days had one.. Very smart and loveable! Loved kids!
Winter coat is even longer than that picture tho. 6ft of snow outside the day I was born!
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
Hmmm...
I know that look.... this pup is gonna have attitude, good thing she has cuteness going for her! Posted by Rusty Bradley (Member # 6938) on :
Speaking of puppies...these 3 little guys were found abandoned under an old cabin in the woods...as of this morning they are now dry, warm, fed and waiting for permanent homes through the High Forest Humane Society.
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Posted by Stephen Deveau (Member # 1305) on :
Not being a dog lover, I have to say that 'Ever' looks like a good family dog.
As you see, I favour a 'Russian Blue Cat'
Posted by Dana Bowers (Member # 780) on :
The long coated one has a resemblance to the Tibetan Mastiff a bit!
Good luck with her!!
Posted by Bec Bermudez (Member # 8219) on :
Thanks!
Yes, they are related to, and sometimes mistaken for, Tibetan Mastiffs. That really irks the TM breeders though! Hahaha. The TM is likely the ancestor of all Molossar breeds. I would not necessarily categorize the Himalayan Sheepdog as a mMolossar though... they are much lighter-framed.
Posted by Jon Butterworth (Member # 227) on :
Unfortunately dogs of any breed in the Himilayan foothills are top fodder for tigers and leopards!
Mum used to say when our terrier dived under the bed there was a leopard in the garden!
Another story she told me was how her friend was walking her dog down the mountain track and ended up pulling an empty leash! Leopard was that quick!
But the women always took a dog walking with them. Monkeys were bad news but never took on a lady with a dog!
Final flashback from my youth! ...
My father's good friend, Jim Corbett, was contracted to the Indian Government to shoot "man-eating" tigers. I have the book he wrote ... "Man-Eaters of Kumaon". Dad painted the cover for it. Fancinating reading and photos. The "The Champawat man-eater" took over 200 souls in Nepal and added another 234 in the fours years in India before Jim finally got her.! Turned out the tigeress was partly lame and humans don't run as fast as deer!
Bec ... here is a scan from the book of Jim's hunting Dog Robin ....breed look familiar?
Think the botom pic shows more of her winter coat.
Other world and many many years ago. 1945!
PS: For you "gun nuts" ... anybody out hunting pheasents in those days had a solid shot in the left barrel of the 12 guage ... just in case
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Posted by Rusty Bradley (Member # 6938) on :
Dana...we are not up on breed identification like you guys are...so we are not sure...but my wife who has rescued everything from a woodcock to a turkey vulture to a starving artist...that would be me...thought it might have alot of Great Peramiese...they are very popular in our area and they all had doubledew claws. Posted by Dana Bowers (Member # 780) on :
No, the Great Pyrenees are a larger livestock guardian breed, similar to Kuvasz, Maremma and Akbash, and are usually solid white, or maybe a little off white.
They are used for sheep guardians mostly, hence the need to blend in with the sheep in coloring!
I believe they originated in France an extremely long time ago, and are not members of the mastiff family. But I am not very up on the breed.
Its hard when you get into the rarely seen, but old breeds of dogs from other countries. The Lundehunds started out that way.
Posted by Jon Butterworth (Member # 227) on :
So what do you figure "Robin" is Dana?
I know they are very old photos which makes it harder.
Top pic looks like she has been shorn for the summer heat even in the Himilayas.
Bottom pic looks more winter and very "spaniel" but heavier.
Jim says in his book he never knew what breed and just rescued a runt from a litter.
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Posted by Dana Bowers (Member # 780) on :
The bottom photo looks very old time Springer or Welsh Spaniel.
I tried to do a quick google search for some historic drawings, and came up with these...
Springer
Welsh Posted by Jon Butterworth (Member # 227) on :
The old "springer" looks right Dana ... thanks.
Robin looks a bit heavier tho. especially thru the chest. Not a pure breed .... something else in there also.
From Jim's writings she has "spaniel" traits too. I called her his "gun dog" but she was more his "tracker" and alarm system!
Jim's book is available on the net,page by page. Just google Jim Corbett or Man-Eaters of Kumaon. He was not a "hunter" but what we call a "naturalist" nowdays. Awsome reading.
Posted by Bec Bermudez (Member # 8219) on :
Hi!
Jon... here is a picture that a friend of mine took in a village in the Himalayas. The dog has a very wide metal collar on, in order to protect it from leopard attacks!
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