1999 DODGE 1500 SLT. 77,400 MILES. EXCELENT CONDITION ALL NEW RUBBER 360 V8 $7500.00 O.B.O. Posted by Dave Sherby (Member # 698) on :
At least you're not trying to unload an SUV. I've heard many dealers won't even take them in on trade.
Posted by Gonzalo (Peewee)Curiel (Member # 3837) on :
We have 10 brand new '07 Escalades and Yukons on the lot at the dealership I work at.. with the '09's rollin' out in the next month or two these won't be going anywhere.Afterall it's 2 years old..blue book a 2yr old Escalade with 10 miles on it and see the hit the consumer would take..Buy it for $62,000 and it books for $38,000... We just had the insurance companys fraud division hold a seminar on fruad regarding the burning of homes and suv's to get out from underneath them...and they have their eyes peeled..
[ July 05, 2008, 12:20 AM: Message edited by: Gonzalo (Peewee)Curiel ]
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
this was on tv tonite had video of it!!!!!!
ESCAMBIA COUNTY - A recreational vehicle went up in flames this afternoon near Pine Forest Road.
Fire officials say the driver was exiting onto Pine Forest Road from the interstate around One Pm when he started to smell smoke coming from the engine area.
By the time he pulled over and located his fire extinguisher... The fire was fully involved.
Firefighters from the Beulah and Ensley Fire Departments were able to get the fire contained within five minutes.
The R-V is a total loss.
The driver was not injured. 1st thing i said.......one way to recoupe his investment)))))))
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
OP, the term is Jewish Lightning Posted by Michael Boone (Member # 308) on :
drag that piece of junk to NY with the milk truck.. Ill give ya 2 bits fer both and send ya packin.
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
nice boonski.....how bout i pay youre plane fare down to get em both????)))))))))))))
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
Do they come with some Speedos?
Posted by Jason Davie (Member # 2172) on :
looks crooked
Posted by Curtis hammond (Member # 2170) on :
nice looking truck. I wish i had a need for one.. But you should be able to sell it at a reasonable price..
Posted by Dale Feicke (Member # 767) on :
That's a nice truck, Joe....hate to see you get rid of it. Are you having mechanical problems, or do you just not need it anymore?
Seems like with all the gas panic now, people are doing a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense. Guy up the street had a 2000 Chevy pickup, all paid for. It got about 15 or so miles per gallon....he panicked, sold it and got a new S-10.
Now, even though the S-10 gets a lot better gas mileage, he's making 300+ bucks a month payments, and probably higher insurance (due to a new, financed vehicle). What sense does that make? Where is he saving any money?
[ July 06, 2008, 10:45 AM: Message edited by: Dale Feicke ]
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
I too am selling my Scion and although it gets great gas mileage I would just feel more comfortable driving my Mercedes coupe. Right now I've been contemplating for a few days getting a Bentley Continental Flying Spur as I've gotten a real good deal on one. They are an awesome 4 door and here are the specs Retail Price $170,990 Fuel Economy (City): 10 mpg. (average: 11.15 mpg.) Horsepower: 552 hp.
I just don't know 4 persons who would ride with me cross country.
[ July 06, 2008, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: Joey Madden ]
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
that's a nice truck, Joe....hate to see you get rid of it. Are you having mechanical problems, or do you just not need it anymore? wifes 95 volvo(was paid for)with 170,000 on it, A/C compressor decides to destroy itself. this is one of those cars you just cant remove the belt and keep on driving it. REBUILT compressor was only available at VOLVO(iam an old parts guy, so i checked a few other places but they told me same thing, VOLVO only people who got em)ANNNNNNNNND MY COST, just for a 1 yr warrenteteed REBUILT unit was $504.00!!!!! 170k, 13 yr old condenser/evaporator/hoses and NEW COMPRESSOR, youre lookin at more repairs when you get it all back up and running. to have just compressor, dryer, charged with R-134A,was lookin at $1200-1500.00. now dumping that kinda money into a 170k, 13 yr old vehicle is spendin good money....and within 3-6 months the some other major repair will be needed, RACK & PINION/TRANNY/BRAKES....so was time to get somethin else. she got a 2002 CAMERY SE, 40,000 miles on it, one owner. proverbial "little old school teacher had it" car. so we should be good on a road worthy vehicle for the next 60,000 miles)))))). BUT she now has car payment. with home owners insurance in florida, almost quadrupled since IVAN, food, gas(for the dodge truck)all over the top latly, prices for signs GETTING CHEAPER,somethin got to go. i really need a truck, but dont need PAYMENT/INSURANCE/GAS cost.....so i got to let it go. its in the auto trader gona get a KAWASAKI VULCAN, 2 wheeler.
[ July 06, 2008, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: old paint ]
Posted by jimmy chatham (Member # 525) on :
i still got the 98 with 80.000 miles 318 engine i will sell you for $4000.00
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
i figured somebody woulda got that one by now.....
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
quote:you should be able to sell it at a reasonable price
LMAO...... reasonable price for the buyer you mean? Trucks are going for squat.... it's a buyers market.
Listen to Dale, OP..... if you have this old truck paid for....it could be much cheaper keeping it, than getting into something different - all things considered.
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
TODD, did you see this? really need a truck, but dont need PAYMENT/INSURANCE/GAS cost.....so i got to let it go. its in the auto trader
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
I remember when you bought this truck OP, you were so proud while I asked why you didn't buy Jimmy Chatham's truck. I guess Georgia was too far from your home and yet for that price if it was me, I would have made the trip and had dinner with the ol'dude as well
Some worry about the gas prices and yet ask me why I'm selling the Scion when in reality I never care bout much including the price of gas but I do understand bout the insurance and monthly payments and that's why Jewish Lightning works so well
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
Old Paint....have you checked what it will cost to insure a motorcycle lately? Waaaaaay more than for that truck!
Posted by david drane (Member # 507) on :
OP, why don't you help America and forget the Japanese garbage and buy a Harley instead. Besides, the chicks are going to be lining up to ride with you!!
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
dave, i dont need no harley, ive done that and most a them girls already....))))))))))
Posted by Robert Larkham (Member # 2913) on :
Japanese garbage.....hahahahaha. They start every morning and don't rattle themselves apart. I put Americans to work when they assembled my Toyota truck. I bought Toyota because after three consecutive Ford Rangers I owned had trannies go at only 90 thousand miles. Just past 90,000 with my 05' Toy and not a problem in sight. Bring on the Jap bikes please!
Posted by Robert Larkham (Member # 2913) on :
Well, I haven't ridden a motorcycle since I was a teenager.....
did see a guy with a suit and tie laying on a paramedic's board the other day with his bike tipped over next to him... and some poor old distraught granny on the side of the road talking to a cop next to her Buick LeSabre.
If I did get one, I'd also look at a Honda or similar bike that was quiet and had the precise sound of a well balanced power-drill.
I like the looks of the Harley's and all... but personally am annoyed at the "look-at-me" noise pollution every time they drive by.
Make me want to yell... "Midas-Size" that thing, will ya?!!" But I know they wouldn't hear me over the racket.
Posted by Robert Larkham (Member # 2913) on :
Todd, I also don't want to have to fit into a mold and look a certain way when riding. Drive a foreign bike and see if a Harley guy will give you the Motorcyclist Wave as they go by the other way.....not a chance. I sold my bike last year, it was a 1978 Kawasaki KZ 400. That was the second bike of the same year make and model I owned. I'm in the market for a new Sport Enduro right now to combat the high gas prices. My one hour commute is killing me.
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
i hada freind of mine drive up here from clearwater, fl. on a KAWASAKI CONQUERS road/sport bike. 1000 c.c. with saddle bags and a windshield and it had 12-15,000 miles on it.....when he came here. i looked at the NEW TRIUMPH 3 cyl ROCKET. awesome bike(same money as a HARLEY). most will remember TRIUMP TRI-DENT, 3 cyl sittin across the frame. this new one is 3 cyl, sittin in line with the frame!!!! guy had it sittin on the kick stand, fired it up, SAT A CUP OF WATER ON THE TANK, and cracked the throttle to 3-4000 rpm from idle, REPEATEDLY...and the cup of water never moved!!!!! now that is what i call SMOOOOOTH!!!! TRY THAT WITH ANY HARLEY)))))
Posted by Michael Boone (Member # 308) on :
try that with a Harley..... why? will it help sell that truck or make the milk truck dis appear? this post has gone way off topic... you guys should be ashamed of yourselves..... Just because George bush is to blame????? Come on!!
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
Lets face it, the only reason OP is gonna buy a Kawasaki or any other used rice burner is because he cannot afford a Harley or a Gold Wing for that matter. Those are the only 2 bikes made in the good ol'U.S. of A and to top it off, Harley is the most sought after motorcycle in the world.
His thoughts to save money doesn't hold weight and he feels inadequate because of his physical condition but if welfare would buy him a Harley, he'd be riding one!
Granted rice rockets rock but so do the new Harley's which they copy from and lets not forget that Harley motors and their clones hold many records today including Top Fuel. Everyone has their thoughts and dreams to what they'll ride but it still it depends on what their wife will let them ride, Joe included.
As far as what others say bout Toyota and other trucks, the new Toyota's aren't anything like the old ones which lasted a lifetime. Even the Scion is made by Dahatsu yet sold by Toyota. Life is different than it was yesterday and my 88 AstroVan has 366,000 miles on it and Dodge trucks with the Cummings will go a half million miles and thats a fact.
OP is my friend but yet I show him no pity when he believes he knows more than I, same goes for Frank and many others Posted by Donna in BC (Member # 130) on :
LOL.... based on the responses, I'd assume OP is not going to make the sale here in good 'ol Letterville...
Best of luck with the sale OP! May you find what you need instead!
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
joey you dont know nothin!!! CURT IS DR KNOW, he knows everything. boone is such a spoilsport.....GO PICK SOME GARLIC FARM BOY!!!!!!! and see how hes tryin to turn this POLITICAL??? BAD MAN BOONE!!!! YOURE RIGHT DONNA........ALL EXCEPT DALE, ROBERT, DRANE & JIMMY.......... ARE ALL CHEAP ARSES!!!!!! ))))))))))))))))))))))))
[ July 09, 2008, 12:49 AM: Message edited by: old paint ]
Posted by Mike O'Neill (Member # 470) on :
Just bought the biggest truck I've owned.
A Ford E450 cube with a V-10 in it. First time I filled it it took $250.00
No, I haven't gone crazy, I actually need the beast as a third van for a delivery contract I've picked up. I already use 2 E250 extended cargo vans.
Gas here is 1.59 per litre or $7.22 per imperial gallon (just over $6 per US gallon), and this is in north america folks. I hate to say it but at $4US per gallon your gas is still relatively cheap compared to most of the rest of the world.
Lets face it... Gas isn't worth more its just the dollar is worth less... Keep printing George Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
todays best buy.....NEW YORKS CHRYSLER BUILDING!!! was bought by the UNITED ARAB EMERATES....all that gas money(we pay) is givin them extra buying power....
Posted by Dale Feicke (Member # 767) on :
Joey, with all due respect, you need to look a little closer at some of the records held by "Harleys". The Pro Stock bikes are built around the highly-touted V-Rod, which has overhead cams and is liquid cooled, looks good, but doesn't run that great. The "Harley" engine is a hand-made air-cooled pushrod engine, built by Vance and Hines, strictly for racing. I wouldn't doubt the Top Fuel motor is similar. Few real Harley parts are involved. These engines are like the aftermarket "Hemi's" that TOp FUel cars run....few if any factory parts. In contrast, the Suzuki Pro bikes run a factory bottom end.
The old Jap bikes may have been crap; but the newer generation of them are quite nice, both in performance and quality. And most 500 cc Jap bikes will blow the wheels off any stock Harley.
My neighbor several years ago had an 1100 Yamaha road bike...rode 36 miles each way to work everyday, rain or shine(Cincinnati), with 38,000 miles on it, had never had anything done but oil and plugs. There's not a Harley anywhere that has done that.
They may be the most sought-after bikes, but it's just the "rebel" mystique. Many who buy them look for something more comfortable in the future. A Gold Wing or the Kaw equivalent, ride like a Caddy, are quiet and efficient; in contrast to the Harleys. But to each, his own.
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Dale... I cannot speak from personal experience...just from what I've heard and my own perceptions.... but I know a fellow that has two motorcycles: A Harley Sport(ster?) bike and a Honda Gold Wing.
He says he drives the Harley if he's just making a short trip locally and is in the mood for feeling like a badass and looking good....but he said the ride is horrible.....so he takes the Goldwing if he wants a nice, luxurious, smooth, quiet ride with all the amenities.
He says he much prefers the Honda over the Harley though.... but he's also mid 60's..... so he's probably more in the Cadillac mode of life.
Again, I don't personally have experience with m-cycles since I was a teen (drove my brothers Honda's around the countryside with no license back then)but I do see my brother-in-law's arms shaking like he's being electrified when he pulls up in my driveway on his Harley. Annoyingly noisy in my opinion...as he sit's atop his Harley and says, "huh.huh..huh..huhhh-i--i-i-i-i Tuh-uh-uh-o-d-d-d"
At my age, should I be looking for a motorcycle (which I won't - seen too many State Police photos of what happens to a cycle rider when they hit a deer at night and then get their heads run over by several cars that don't notice them) I'd be looking for big ol' cushy Honda....
But, different strokes right? Variety and individuality is what makes the world an interesting place. Posted by David Harding (Member # 108) on :
Everyone's missing the obvious. The bike OP wants has a drive shaft. Mullets don't get caught in drive shafts. Posted by Mike Faig (Member # 6104) on :
I love the smell of nitromethane in the morning!
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
Dale, that's why I said Harley and their clones. I a very familier with motorcycles and have owned quite a few in my day whether Harley, rice rockets, moto guzzi and triumph. I own a road racer Moto Guzzi which I have't ridden in years and also an 11 second street car. Granted the Hemi's aren't at all factory parts but most are clones of the original. In the past I've driven both funny cars and dragsters.
Posted by Curtis hammond (Member # 2170) on :
quote: And most 500 cc Jap bikes will blow the wheels off any stock Harley.
This doesn't matter one bit. All the talk about super powers and extra strength and smooth ride has no meaning to a real motor cycle owner.
Real motor cycles are meant to be ridden in a manner the ooozes cool. Coolness cannot be created with a super powered bike. Coolness cannot be created with a flashy faring. Coolness is something that develops over time from within.
Imagine standing on the street side. watching bikes go by. One whizzes past at such a high rate of speed you couldn't tell it from a kawasucki to a hondog. You stand amazed at how the cop was able to catch this blazing wonder of speed and plastic.
Then imagine watching a really well dressed bike passing by at a speed that ooozes coolness. You can see it, admire it, and think about how you would love to own one just like it.
At the local gas pit you watch the lovely ladies walk up to the owner asking for rides. They know the guy is walking cool and drips testosterone. They know he is rider that thinks cool, acts cool and is cool. Ladies know that guys running 9500 RPM's on the tac just want to feel her lady fruit in his back while she holds tight fearing for her life.
You watch as those lovely's walk right by the plastic imitator of a motor cycle adorned with handle bars slung so low it makes it look like the rider is laying on the machine. They don't want to compete with bike who lays its rider while riding it or dropping it at high speed.
Real bike owners know the truth about real bikes. They are willing to pay a price to get greatness. They know deep down inside its the truth. All they have to do is watch as so many other pretenders copy, imitate and attempt to emulate the look, sounds and culture of the genuine. They listen but smile politely while the parrots crackle time worn fantasy cliche's about over heating, vibrations, oil leaks, and high prices.
The truth is none of the parrots have ever owned one but all have criticized one.
A real bike owner knows deep down inside everyone truly wants a real motor cycle. But until they can others will make excuses in an attempt to make up for their lack worthiness. Not every one has the mojo to get a real motor cycle.
It's Ok to admit it.Almost all Harley owners served penance on lesser imitators. It OK. We all know there are two kinds. One you learn on and one you love.
Yes, Harley Davidson. Each and every time you climb off you're are just a little more cool than when you climbed aboard.
[ July 11, 2008, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: Curtis hammond ]
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
Hahahahaha Curtis.....If I am gonna get on it...it will have 4 wheels or boobs!
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
curts been watchin TV commercials again))))))))) i had a 350 DUCATI when i was in the air force, and i rode more women on the back of that.........then i did on my HARLEY FULL DRESSER!!!!!!!!! HARLEY RIDERS now are not REAL BIKERS... most are YUPPIES who are not COOL, wishin they was!!!!! sorta like CORVETTE OWNERS....cool cars but most who own them ARE LUMPS!!!!!! ZIP PERSONALITY , AND look like BOOKEEPERS!!!!! curt sort fits right in there)))))))))) while i was lookin at a NEW KAWASAKI the other day i meet this gal who was seriously lookin at a MEAN STREAK...........now thats a real woman!!!!!! and most of the people i meet in the KAWASKI/SUSUKI/HONDA shops....ALL OWNED HARLEYS.... and say that since they got the JAP BIKE... they never knew how much fun ridin could be.....instead of FIXIN................ RELIABILITY, DEPENDABILITY, LONGEVITY, and the LEAST MAINTENANCE PRONE vehicles are what i want. we have owned nothing but VOLVOS in the 27 yrs hennie and i have been together. the 1995 VOLVO A/C died, was 170,000, 13 yr old vehicle....AND IT AINT AS GOOD AS THE VOLVOS of the 60-80's!!!!! they have went downhill...NOW a TOYOYA CAMERY is all of the things VOLVOS USED TO BE....so that what hennie has now......
[ July 11, 2008, 05:05 PM: Message edited by: old paint ]
Posted by David Harding (Member # 108) on :
They need to give all the high maintenance rides to the teenagers--it keeps them off the streets!
Posted by Robert Larkham (Member # 2913) on :
I'm buying a motorcycle to combat the high cost of fuel. If I spend more on a bike than I did on my Toyota truck then that defeats the purpose of low cost transportation. For that reason I will be picking up my new Suzuki SV 650 in the next couple of weeks. 50-55 miles per gallon, $5995 out the door, tax and title included. This will not only save me on gas but will extend the life of my Toyota buy not putting so many miles on it. And I'm going to be plenty cool on it Curtis and since I'm married I don't care if the women look at me. My buddies and I have a saying about the Harley and Corvette guys.....it has something to do with the size of their privates.
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
robert.......the one iam lookin at is $6700.00 kawasaki 900 cruiser, guy told me he had the same one and got 40-45 mpg. and the harley and corevette guys.....are USUALLY SINGLE)))))))))and the one that got a girlfreind....its usually short term))))))
Posted by Ray Rheaume (Member # 3794) on :
I feel the pain, OP.
I just got hit with the choice of doing around $3000 in repairs on the Ranger or sinking the money into a down payment on a newer truck.
Here's the deciding factors...
2001 Ranger
Pros.... Paid off and a clear title a year ago. Body work done and custom painted 3 years ago (still looks good) V6 engine with decent mileage holding up well. 5 speed overdrive.
Cons... 120,000+ miles on it 2 wheel drive makes getting around in winter tricky once in a while. No passenger room past one. Resale value about even with the cost of repairs.
The other option... 2003 Dodge Dakota King Cab
Pros... 50,000 miles on it 4 wheel drive Lots of nice options included Seats 5 passengers Dealership warranty
Cons... Higher insurance Less gas mileage Used sale price equal to what I paid for the Ranger NEW! 5 year payment plan with $3000 down just about the same.
I mulled this one over for several days and settled on the Ranger repair option. Turned out that the repairs came out around $500 under the estimate, and without the boost in insurance and monthly payments, it'll still do what I need it to for a few more years. BONUS! I used the $500 I'd budgeted for the repairs to register my wife's Integra under my name and get some new tires for it. Get's a lot better gas mileage than either truck does and is helping keep the daily wear and tear off of the Ranger. Without the payments, I can afford to tweak the "Teggy" this winter.
We all have our reasons.
Good luck with the sale. Rapid
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
Used Toyota 4x4 with 120000 miles would outlast both the Ranger and Dakota and also be great in the snow.
Posted by Jon Jantz (Member # 6137) on :
My inlaws are die-hard Toyota fans, and think they are the only thing worth driving... My dad-in-law recently purchased a new Tundra and I like the truck OK but the gas mileage sucks. He is the most meticulous maintenance person and easiest driver in the world... warms it up for a couple minutes before leaving, drives easy and slow and runs synthetic oil. I think the best gas mileage he's gotten on a trip is around 17 and in town it's around 14. The way I drive I'd get about 12 on the highway and 8 in town.
My next vehicle is going to get good gas mileage.
Posted by Robert Larkham (Member # 2913) on :
If your going Toyota, the only way to get good gas mileage is with the four banger. My 4x4 Tacoma gets 25 mpg and can pull my pop-up camper loaded with wood, cast iron cookware, two kids a dog and my Wife....works for me.
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Jon.....
Toyota lovers are a lot like ex-smokers....... "nothing is better than a Toyota" and all American cars suck.....
Well, I partially agree with that.... but you might want to show your die-hard Toyota loving Father in-law these:
Toyota is struggling with quality on some of it's current models, whereas before - they had a pretty stellar reputation....
Posted by Dale Feicke (Member # 767) on :
All of them got caught with their pants down, in the rush to bigger, more powerful vehicles of a few years ago. Friend of mine bought a new big Dodge with the Hemi in it. Cool truck. I saw him a couple weeks ago, and asked what kind of mileage he got. He made a disgruntled face and said about 12 - 14. The big Fords and Nissans are the same.....and they cost 30,000+++. No wonder they're sitting all over in dealers' lots.
I'm glad the Toyota little truk gets good mileage; the Nissan Frontier doesn't. I have a 2000 with just a light aluminum cap on it, and it's never gotten over 21, with the 4 cylinder. They're pretty decent truks though. Mine has close to 200 thou on it now, and still runs good. Of course, Nissan had to go and make them bigger....so they probably get worse mileage now. They deserve to sit on the lots.
I hate to think where this is going to end. I guess we'll be buying a little teeny, tiny electric truck that goes 28 miles per hour, and you'll have to stop at a charging station every 75 miles and plug it in for awhile. Gosh, I can't imagine how wonderful that day will be. Somebody shoot me!!! SEE WHAT YOU STARTED, JOE???
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
Tundra's are nice but Toyota built they reputation on Tacoma trucks here in the U.S. and the fuel mileage and the longevity belongs to the Tacoma 4's and nothing compares to them. As far as the gas mileage on the Tundra, how does it compare to the Chevy, Ford and Dodge gas engines? Where I live in the northwest, If you want to off road in the snow nothing beats a Tacoma and modifications are kept at a minimal unlike those great big American trucks who can only get in a 1/2 day due to fuel issues.
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Joey -
Real world city/mileage testing on the following models:
All are based on having 4-wheel drive.
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
So in reality Todd, the Tundra does better when in comparison with the others but yet the Toyota Tacoma straight 4 cylinder 4x4 can do pretty much everything the others do except tow the weight the big ones do. I guess I'm partial to the Tacoma's because I like off roading and the suspensions of the earlier models are awesome yet not in comparison to the Uni-mog which is similar to the H1.
Posted by Checkers (Member # 63) on :
So, my theory about Ford tooting their own horn about being equal to Toyota in quality is correct. Fords aren't getting any better, Toyotas are getting worse I've always been a fan of Toyotas, but 2 of my neighbors bought them and had more issues than I thought a Toyota should have. I guess nothing these days is built the way it used to be. This is also why I'm still driving my 1994 Saturn that averages about 31 mpg with the AC on and the windows rolled down
Havin' fun,
Checkers
Posted by Robert Larkham (Member # 2913) on :
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Posted by Robert Larkham (Member # 2913) on :
I own a 2005 Tacoma.....ABSOLUTELY love it 25 mpg
My Wife has a 2006 Toyota Matrix.....ABSOLUTELY love it 35mpg
I had a 1978 Toyota pick-up 2 wheel drive. Loved it! 295,000 miles on it...truck rotted out.
I also LOVE subaru....I have had four of them.
I had a Datsun B210 once to...also loved it.
Posted by Robert Larkham (Member # 2913) on :
sorry for the double post above.
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
you all are gona luv this story!!! my friend in pa, him and i grew up together. hes a vietnam vet and is on disability. dont spend much for vehicles. had a older dodge dakota4 cyl, was gettin ruff with rust. he was out one day found 1999 toyota tacoma sittin in a guys yard. he stopped and asked if the guy wanted to sell it. guy said yea, the damage it had was left front fender, hood, radiator. guy hit a deer with it and no insurance. leroy(my freind) got the truck for $7-800! good price he figured and toyotas are know for good gas milage. he get it towed home and over month or so he gets all used replacment parts, and the truck runs great. exhaust was gettin bad so he was gona take it to a muffler shop and get an ALUMIMIZED SYSTEM on it. muffler shop guy had it on the lift and was bangin on the frame....leroy says what the h*** ya doin? shop guy says ...i was checkin youre frame, toyota hasa RECALL on 1997-2001 for bad frames. and yourse is bad!!! take it to toyota and see what they can do for you. leroy does this and toyota looked at it, fill out some paperwork, and told leroy they would let him know something in bout a month. bout that time the dealership called him, said to bring the truck in to the shop. he gets there figurin they was gona patch it up, the guy say..."we have A CHECK FOR YOU, just sign here and we will take back the truck." leroy looks at the check and its $13,000.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! remember what he paid for it? and with the repairs he did he mighta had $2000.00 in it!!!!! so he figures he will go buy another small truck and fix it up.......but then a salesman showed him a YARIS........let him take it home for a day, leroy comes back and with the $13,000.00 +$2200.00 of his money.....TOOK THE YARIS....free and clear!!! hes tellin me this thing get 40 MPG in the hills of PA, 45 MPG highway!!!!!!!!
[ July 14, 2008, 04:01 PM: Message edited by: old paint ]
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Good story Joe....
The Yaris has gotten good reviews thus far....
Not sure if it would be for me.... it's soooo small, I would feel like it was a coffin on wheels....
But maybe that's what this world is coming to. Never thought I'd see the day where lives, commerce, world economies are hanging in the balance due to energy prices. Scary.... but scarier for my kids.
Drill now baby!! Oil does no good sitting in the ground.
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
drillin..is a whole nother subject....AND WRONG WAY TO GO... to solve a NOW IMMEDIATE PROBLEM. oil companies own mineral right to millions of acres ON DRY LAND IN THE U.S.A. to drill on AND WONT DO IT....cause the cost of labor HERE is to high them... if you want to make another post..about it....this one is about vehicles)))))
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Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
What's your solution to solve this "immediate problem" now? Curious.
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
Todd, the Yaris might now be as small as one would think and the same goes for my 06 Scion XB. I'm 6'4" tall, 235 lbs and I fit both in the front and in the back seat with lots of leg room. The only problem I have these days is my lust for automobiles and the fact I love driving all that I have. The Scion used to get 32 mpg around town when the gas was just gas but now with the 10% ethanol my mileage has gone to 28 mpg and makes me rethink my needs and feel I'm better off driving my Mercedes coupe' where comfort is king and selling off on the Scion.
Gas mileage isn't everything
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
like i said todd.........make that a another thread.... and i edited the AUTOTRADE add down to $7500.00 O.B.O.
[ July 14, 2008, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: old paint ]
Posted by Ray Rheaume (Member # 3794) on :
What really gets me is how the great American love affair with "bigger better faster" got out of hand again. 30 years ago I was lined up to get gas while Chrysler was on the verge of a federal bail out because they were slow to produce fuel efficient cars. Gas was $1.35/gal. The big three were moving toward making smaller cars and we were more than happy to buy them. Proof...the Ford Escort was the #1 selling car in America for years.
I've always been one to buy an American car, bt I gotta tell you, it's harder these days to keep that tradition going. Not because I don't like the cars, but because the big three decided some years ago that the V8 muscle cars and V10 trucks were what we wanted and started cranking them out again, a la Chrysler in the eighties, while fuel economy became the main force in sales.
So where have the big three wound up? Today, GM is planning a big announcement. It'll more likely be one that includes layoffs and restructuring, not the release of the new 2009 600HP Camaros.
A local salesman for a Dodge dealership here in town just got his limited edition 2008 Challenger this past weekend. He'd ordered it over a year ago and is not only wondering how he's gonna afford the gas in it, but how he's gonna pay for it. At over $40K, about the only thing he can do with it is park it in the garage and look at it. Sure, in 15 years it'll be worth a bundle, but for now, it's a burden. Who knows...15 years from now we may all be on biodiesel and he'll be unable to drive it at all....
The last time I owned an 8 cylinder car, Ronald Reagan was in office. It hasn't killed me to put aside my ego and drive something practical. Maybe if the big three had stuck with the idea that practical would outlive "more bigger faster", they wouldn't be watching their numbers drop like a pair of teenager's pants in a cathouse while the rest of us bought fuel efficient imports that ARE suiting our needs.
Rapid
Posted by Robert Larkham (Member # 2913) on :
VERY well said Ray!
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
Ray did you know that the 94 to 96 Chevy Hi performance LT V8 which was offered in the Corvette, Impala SS and the similar engine in the police car get 15 mpg in the city and 23+ on the hiway and will go 200,000 + miles, That's as much gas mileage as your Ranger gets. Although my 64 was a modified 340 and not hi tech and was an 11 second street car its gas mileage still brought me into the 20's on the hiway. At one time when gas was gas even a year back vehicles would get better mileage even with the V8's as technology would reign. Choosing the proper setup within your weight with a hi tech and hi performance motor could give any V6 a run for its money and even some Japanese vehicles have V8's and rear wheel drive today. Many of the new V8's have a changeover system incorporated which switch from 8 cylinders to 4 as you drive on the hiway.
First it was propane back in the 60's and now its Ethanol. This idea that Ethanol is good doesn't really make sense when your mileage falls 4 to 5 mpg just to satisfy the government who for the many who run it have holdings in its stock and on the other hand run the media telling us people how good it is for our environment as if they really give a rats azz for the environment. Some older vehicles cannot run Ethanol as it will foul up its components as its not meant for engines but those who listen to this crap haven't the knowledge for combustion engines but in the name of the clean air act, act as if they have better schooling when most know its about how to get our money as its all about the money.
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
ethenol doesent only come from CORN. when i lived in maine, the guy i worked for had a old warehouse, and i asked one day what was it before he got it. IT WAS AN ALCOHOL PLANT.......and POTATOES was used to make that..............aslo ive heard stories of some of the old "maine shiners", making whiskey from potato mash. BRAZIL gets over 60% of their GAS from SUGAR BEETS. they were way ahead of all other counties on the way GAS would go. ANNNNNND you can still buy a LATE 60'S VW BEETLE there. any of you ever own one of these??? great gas mileage..... the big problem i see, is not size of vehicles being so important, its EMENITIES....what can you buy today WITHOUT A/C????? and who in the he** needs a GPS....you that dumb????
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Good points Joey....
I test drove a Toyota Rav4 small SUV about 2 months ago. It had a 270 hp V6 in it and it gets real world gas mileage (as tested by Consumer Reports) of 15 city/ 29 highway/ 22 overall.
That's pretty good mileage and that is a 4X4 model. For a small SUV it is top rated for quality, has pretty darn good room in it...
and best of all.... it's got power that will literally blow-you-away. I couldn't believe it.... it ran like a raped ape.
The Honda CRV, on the other hand...is nice enough... but with half the horsepower and worse gas mileage....it just goes to show you what real/creative engineering can accomplish ala the Toyota.
OP - - AC is almost insignificant on mileage these days....Fuel from corn, etc is a boondoggle bunch of BS.....it takes more energy to make fuel that returns inferior mileage....and I own and like a GPS. You don't have to be "dumb" to be directionally challenged.
Posted by George Perkins (Member # 156) on :
Joey, nice of you to post the difference ethanol makes on milage...about what I had figured.
On the subject of A/C. On one of my trips back east a number of years ago, I checked the milage using A/C and without with the windows down. It was identical. My wife at the time and I switched off driving chores. I always got two to three mpg better than her. She was real bad about getting pinned in traffic, having to roll out of the throttle and then get back on the gas. Oh, and by the way, we were driving a 72 Monte Carlo 350 4bbl and it got 25-28 out on I-40 at 70 MPH. It replaced a 74 Nova wth a 307....17 MPG
I would be willing to bet there are as many 4wd vehicles around here as there are in snow country. Most never, ever get off the road. It snows once every five years. Me, I'd rather keep up with my wallet than the Jonses'.
Posted by Don Hulsey (Member # 128) on :
Miles per dollar is what matters most to me. Ethanol is cheaper by the gallon, but mileage suffers so badly that it cost more to run.
As far as the AC goes... A couple years ago we took the van(99 Chevy 3/4 ton 350 V8) to Arizona and back. We were dragging a trailer the whole time, but we did a LOT of driving on flat land in Texas. Air on or off with the windows up did not make enough difference to show on mileage. Air off with the windows down cost me about 2 miles per gallon.
Running through the mountains the cruise control did not want to maintain 85 in overdrive, so I dropped it to drive and let it breathe. Running the mountains @ 85 mph in drive with the AC on actually gave just a little better mileage than running on flat ground in overdrive with the AC off and windows down.
BTW... I had the GPS running on the laptop the whole time... just cause I could. I know the way, but it gave us something to play with on the road.
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