Getting ready to finally put up a new website. We have been having trouble coming up with a suitable name but I think we have finally settled on something, Perkins Designs. We wanted a wide encompasing name as we do all sorts of things and didn't want any confusion about what we do as we will be moving to a different area, hopefully within the year and will be basically starting from scratch. Anyway, the name we have come up with isn't available with a .com or .net ending. Are there any drawbacks to using the less common ones like .org or .biz????
Posted by Ryan Culbertson (Member # 7560) on :
Hi George, My name is Alan Burbol, I'm a co-worker of Ryan's and he asked that I post and give some advice on the topic being the shop's IT dept.
Having the name you want is very important. However, not having your name as a .com can lead to confusion. Admittedly, there is nothing wrong with the .org or .biz top-level domains, but the .com just feels more natural to type when looking for a site.
Whenever I check for a domain name, I never use the registars sites (godaddy, network solutions, etc.). Always use the Internic's site. (www.internic.net).
While I do not know what name you chose, I did do a search on the Internic page for a domain that did not come back with a result that you could use if you wanted to. If you'd like to hear what I searched, call or IM Ryan or e-mail myself.
~Alan Burbol alan@qcgwd.com
-The below signature is not mine-
Posted by Curtis hammond (Member # 2170) on :
and be sure to know that if you do use internic (network solutions)
They will register your name (google, tasting websites) for up to four days. You will not have the chance to register it elsewhere for much cheaper while they block your name. Then just about the time they release your name someone else can tasted it for a few days too.
Network solutions is coming under some serious heat because of this.
Posted by Ryan Culbertson (Member # 7560) on :
Alan says:
Curtis, Internic is not a domain registrar, and will not register the domain before you can snag it for yourself.
www.internic.net and click the "Whois" link at the top.
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
geo, as for havin a .biz extention, its not a bad thing look at www.supersigns.biz they do a lot of biz))))))))
Posted by Russ McMullin (Member # 5617) on :
Before college I always went by Russell, but I got tired of people always asking, "How do you spell that? Is it with one "L" or two?" So, I shortened it to Russ. I can't remember if anyone has ever asked me how to spell it.
Having a complicated or uncommon domain name is a similar situation. You will always have to explain the spelling to people instead of them just knowing it. For this reason I would never suggest including hyphens or underscores in a domain name, unless you want to spend the rest of your life reminding people how to get to your site:
"Hey, I tried going to your website, but someone else's site kept coming up".
"Yeah, there is actually a hyphen in the middle".
The same thing happens with domains that don't end in ".com". You will forever be reminding people to make sure they use ".net" instead of ".com", or whatever the case may be. It doesn't mean nobody will end up at your site, but it's extra hassle on your end.
My personal rule is, use .com when possible, and never use hyphens or underscores, ever.
Posted by Ian Stewart-Koster (Member # 3500) on :
George, what about 'PerkinsDesignShop' dot com?
Posted by Ryan Culbertson (Member # 7560) on :
whois doesn't have that one listed.
It can be your for the low low price of.....
Check with 1and1.com they have been real helpful for us.
Posted by Curtis hammond (Member # 2170) on :
Network Solutions has responded to the accusations through a statement by Jonathon Nevett, Vice President of Policy at Network Solutions.
“I’d like to clarify what we are doing. In response to customer concerns about Domain Name Front Running (domains being registered by someone else just after they have conducted a domain name search), we have implemented a security measure to protect our customers. The measure will kick in when a customer searches for an available domain name at our website, but decides not to purchase the name immediately after conducting the search.
After the search ends, we will put the domain name on reserve. During this reservation period, the name is not active and we do not monetize the traffic on these domains. If a customer searches for the domain again during the next 4 days at networksolutions.com, the domain will be available to register. If the domain name is not purchased within 4 days, it will be released back to the registry and will be generally available for registration.
This protection measure provides our customers the opportunity to register domains they have previously searched without the fear that the name will be already taken through Front Running.
You are correct that we are trying to take an arrow out of the quiver of the tasters. As you know, domain tasters are the largest Front Runners. Due to no fault of registrars, Front Runners purchase search data from Internet Service Providers and/or registries and then taste those names. Some folks may not agree with our approach, but we are trying to prevent this malicious activity from impacting our customers.”
NSI is admitting that it registers / holds the domain, but suggests that this is a security measure to protect consumers. Of course, this supposed measure precludes the registrant from registering the domain with any other registrar at a cheaper price.
[ January 22, 2008, 02:21 AM: Message edited by: Curtis hammond ]
Posted by John Kurtzman (Member # 1736) on :
George; I favor "Perkins Design" for a posted name. It seems to have an air of professionalism. From earlier experiences with my own advertising recall confusion by some when I used my first name in conjunction with my last name.Ther are many Georges out there but not as many Perkins. Also check out the fire truck I mentioned that was documented and replicated by hand on my website under "pictorial and artistic" in www.kurtzmansigns.com
John
Posted by George Perkins (Member # 156) on :
After much deliberation, trial, and error we settled on Perkins Artworks. We were able to get .com for it. We both agreed that it was best to go with a .com to avoid confusion. Artworks is wide encompasing and covers anything we might end up doing. I've found out that in my thirty some odd years in the business, if I focus on one aspect it will certainly be the aspect that is soon to die a sudden death . At least this way we will never have to change business cards.