Here's a truck I saw in the city last week. Posted by John Arnott (Member # 215) on :
There is a truck down here too that looks like that crap.
Posted by Russ McMullin (Member # 5617) on :
As far as I am aware, the taggers like to make words that only other taggers can read.
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
Hmm..
I see "Seizure Records"
I could be wrong and probably am. Posted by FranCisco Vargas (Member # 145) on :
it says Joey Posted by Ian Stewart-Koster (Member # 3500) on :
i read it as Zoey
Posted by Darcy Baker (Member # 8262) on :
Mom! 86 up?
Posted by jack wills (Member # 521) on :
"Sally's Lips"
Posted by Darcy Baker (Member # 8262) on :
I heard we now allow trucks across the border. I think it's a South American ups truck.
Posted by Henry Barker (Member # 174) on :
I guess awhile back I was suffering from parental paranoia, I have a 15 year old who is heavily into graffiti and hip hop. He got into trouble for painting the wall behind the school, but instead of beating up on him, we've encouraged it, in a more controlled enviroment. He spends hours on end with a large roll of paper turning out some great stuff, we also fix boards in the barn that they can paint.
According to him the crap on the backdoor is tagging, which him and his friends are dead against. There are some pretty good signpeople today that were former grafitti artists.
I would hate if somebody painted the side of our building or vehicles, but don't see anything wrong with encouraging it elsewhere.
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
I think it merely says "I did this, and next time I do it, you'll know it was me"
Posted by Stephen Deveau (Member # 1305) on :
Some of the tagging I see around here in Nova Scotia is out of this world.... Great Minds!
I am going on a 20 KM walk today with camera in hand. Wait! Lets see what I find. I will post them Because this work is a free spirit... with no money attached.
[ December 11, 2007, 06:12 AM: Message edited by: Stephen Deveau ]
Posted by Mike Faig (Member # 6104) on :
The message is subliminal. It reads: "You parked in my spot. Next time it happens I will not be so kind."
Posted by Ian Stewart-Koster (Member # 3500) on :
You have just opened a can of worms- no, a can of alphabet soup!
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
I Guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I see it as a mess. It's horrible, illegable lettering to say the least.
When a baby scribbles it is cute, This is just an adult scribbling and calling it cool.
Well it isn't! It's a mess, plain and simple.
It is a form of expression so I will not disrespect that, but as truck lettering it just fails.
edited to add: unless it is a tagger supply company
Raw energy when released without control makes a mess, Raw energy with proper control and channels can produce wonderful things.
[ December 11, 2007, 08:59 AM: Message edited by: Bob Rochon ]
Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on :
Driving down the Presidio for several blocks at the cross streets there are these parked moving vans assumably advertisements. This is one of them.
There is a documentary I once watched on tagging and found much of it brilliant work. Granted, it did destroy the property of someone else and devalue the neighborhood in much the same way that would happen if the punks and gothics decided to make your store front their hangout.
When I look at this truck I see planning and much careful consideration going into the design. As far as craftsmanship, well that's another story.
But what does it say?
Posted by Laura Butler (Member # 1830) on :
I have a skate board facility right next door with the same graffiti layout on their sign. When it stops with the freezing rain, I'll venture out and take a pic. Then we'll see if anyone can read the name of the place.
ps. I love watching the train cars go by. I just marvel at the artisty.
[ December 11, 2007, 09:32 AM: Message edited by: Laura Butler ]
Posted by Cam Bortz (Member # 55) on :
Well, at least they are hand lettering this stuff. More than can be said for the majority of sign "painters".
Posted by Gene Golden (Member # 3934) on :
The difference between Graffiti and Art, is permission.
Posted by Jon Jantz (Member # 6137) on :
Rick, I really like your design, but I think your have a kerning issue.
Posted by George Perkins (Member # 156) on :
Well, if a group of professional lettering artists can't read the sign, what hope is there for the general public
Hopefully those in their intended niche market can make it out.
I've seen some documentaries on graffiti and they split my emotions. I find it brilliant on one hand and destructive on the other. Most of it is just plain ugly. I'm also 62, if I were 15 I'd probably have a ton of spray cans hidden somewhere Posted by Ray Rheaume (Member # 3794) on :
Rick, What I can decipher is SATUR. There are two signatures on the piece, one is "Joey" and up in the right-hand red area it also appears to say "satur" in white. Often there will be clues within or around the piece.
Edit to say that Ray is correct. I was typing and taking care of customers, by the time I got back, Ray had a better shot. It's also signed in the bottom shadow.
[ December 11, 2007, 11:38 AM: Message edited by: Gene Golden ]
Posted by Jon Jantz (Member # 6137) on :
Wow, Ray. Nice work. He has a lot of really cool stuff in his 'Mural' and 'Illustrations' sections.
Also, in the better picture of the truck, you can see that it actually says the name in more legible writing directly about the 'Joey'.
Posted by Ray Rheaume (Member # 3794) on :
It's actually "Zoey", his daughter's name.
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
Thanks Ray, there is some great work on his site!
I was way off but at least I can recognize the effort and skill that goes into creating this type of art, and I can see the message will reach it's intended market without any problems, whether or not other people "get it."
I also saw a documentary highlighting a few of the top artists and while some folks here speak of the damage to property, I saw an entirely different side in the film. These guys were commissioned big bucks to come in and work their magic on large walls, by individuals, businesses, organizations and municipalities that wanted artwork that fits the urban setting but still has meaningful content. They also carried permits to show anyone that gave them any trouble.
For a group of folks that's also into artwork by guys like Ed Roth or Coop', ya'll seem a little stuffy. Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
I like Graffiti art...and besides, it makes the time fly whilst waiting for a train to clear.
Posted by thom miller (Member # 1845) on :
Not too much different then some of the wraps I've seen on box trucks...beautiful artwork, but you can't find the name of the company doing the advertising.
Posted by ScooterX (Member # 2023) on :
I'm guessing the owners of the truck wanted this - it was done from a ladder and more than a few hours of work.
I view this style of graffiti art as pretty much a continuation of the aesthetics of pinstriping.
Most of the arabesques in striping don't "say" or "mean" anything, but sometimes you look at a white and then discover a name or an animal or something. (Tramp Warner's layouts come to mind.)
This tag is just a lot more complex than most. I admire the shading in the letterforms and the bust-out (the curls on the outside edge.) It takes a lot of can practice to do that.
As for legibility, well... its an icon, or a signature, not really a typical sign. the intended "audience" for this image can read it (or recognize) it just fine. it is intended for a small group of people in-the-know.
Posted by Dale Manor (Member # 4858) on :
Here is my only attempt at Graffiti...I did this for some students at the University where I used to work. The HDU grey letters are about 12 inches tall....I used my beat up old Badger airbrush for this.
This piece was to be used in a video the students were producing. One of many of the crazy projects that came my way in 6 years of that job.
It has it's place and audience...But poorly done work can be an eye sore.
Posted by Darcy Baker (Member # 8262) on :
You're a natural.I like the grey concrete look on the hdu also ...feels right. Did you teach at the U?
Posted by Dale Manor (Member # 4858) on :
I was a lab supervisor in an Art and Design Department with 6 to 10 student employees and 800-900 students.
I wasn't officially a teacher but that's what I did all day.
It was a trip!
Posted by Nikki Goral (Member # 7844) on :
Hay Rapid... Were you watching paint dry again? Ha ha ha! (Note: to lots of time on his hands to investigate graffiti or chat on the phone!) J.K.!! Need your link to see your cars yet.
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