I have a customer who wants to have a large-ish banner (4'x40') mounted to the side of a building and is keen to utilize a frame of some description. Short of a wooden frame and screwing the banner to it through the grommets (yuk!), does anyone have any suggestions as to a better idea? I was wondering about an open frame that we could 'lace' the banner to with shock cord (bungee cord)?
As always, any help appreciated!
Posted by Checkers (Member # 63) on :
I duuno Graham. You want to mount a frame to a building, then mount a banner to the frame? That soulds like double the work, unless the banner is changing on a regular basis. Your idea of a frame should work, but it's still a lot of work. I would suggest a proper flex face frame or similar framing system, or being cheap, I would entertain using some sort of tubing, mounted to the wall and use bungee balls to hold the banner to the tubing. I could think of several other options too.
Havin' fun,
Checkers
Posted by captain ken (Member # 742) on :
I would use eye bolts mounted about a foot or so around the perimeter of the banner and use small bungee cords to attach the banner. that will keep the banner flat and smooth without sagging
Posted by Jon Butterworth (Member # 227) on :
Graham, you don't say if the banner is temporary, long term or permanent fixture or what sort of wall it's going on.
Temporary: Go with Ken's method but we find you will only need fixtures every 3 to 4 feet. Every foot means drilling 90 odd holes for a banner that size!
Long term or permanent: We have a 1/4" rope sewn in the hems of the banner and feed it thru a "sail track" on all four sides.
The Sail Track is a cheap aluminium extrusion we buy in 18ft lenths. In cross section it looks like a "P" with an gap in the top.
This example was on a coro wall and we pinged a chalk line along the top. We screwed the top track along the line. Fed the banner in from one end. Fed on the bottom track onto the banner and screwed down starting in the middle and working outwards. Fed the track on one end and fixed. Same with other end pulling tension. Hey Presto no wrinkles.
Brick or concrete walls we pre-drill the track then use masonary nails or nylon plugs.
Hope this helps.
[ August 29, 2006, 10:43 PM: Message edited by: Jon Butterworth ]
Posted by michael potter (Member # 6539) on :
Hi Jon could you tell me what determines wether you use banner or signwhite etc thanks mike
Posted by Ian Stewart-Koster (Member # 3500) on :
Graham, there's also a banner 'bracket' you can get here- an extrusion of aluminium, which does not require any hemming or edging to the banner, just poke the material over, push the plastic strip in the gap, pull the banner taut, and push the plastic vee in the bottom, then fit the coverstrip. It's good for quicker changes & less permanent stuff than the sailtrack that Jon mentions.
Mike, I'm not speaking for Jon here, but if the customer provides a pre-printed banner...you use it! It's also way cheaper, material-wise, and lighter, and available in bigger bits without joins...
Posted by Jon Butterworth (Member # 227) on :
Mike, as Ian said ... this one was a pre-printed banner sent to us from the Melbourne Head Office. We just had the rope sewn in the hems to fit the sail track. Even though it was a "permanent" installation it won't last as long as a masked and spray painted metal sign.
Posted by michael potter (Member # 6539) on :
thank you Jon and Ian So much to learn so little time to learn it Appreaciate all the help I can get Thanks Mike
Posted by Graham Parsons (Member # 1129) on :
Great suggestions, guys.
Jon, I like the sail track idea - a neat solution.
It may not go anywhere in any case - it sounds like the landlord has an issue with banners...
Anyway, thanks to all for the input
Posted by Jon Butterworth (Member # 227) on :
Graham, show the landlord the pic of the Lincraft banner and these ones we erected for Harvey Norman. Or even e-mail him this thread.
He either has an issue about signage on his building of any kind or just banners that tend to look "scruffy", sag and flap in the wind like the one between the pillars in the top pic. We didn't erect that one!
These were digit print banners supplied by the customer mounted with sailtrack on the concrete walls.
To my mind they look "high class" signage, probably even better than multiple metal sheets and a lot easier to install.
