Has anyone hear of them... in the Hockey rinks they put advertising on the steps that go up the seats!?! they are askin me to make these small 6"x 30" hi-impact styrene signs for advertising that they seen in the cities??!?!?!need anything special
[ August 29, 2006, 03:58 PM: Message edited by: Joanna Barnett ]
Posted by Checkers (Member # 63) on :
Hiya Joanna, I know what you're talking about, but don't think they're styrene. The ones I've seen are more of a floor graphic that's applied to the stair riser. To do it right, you'll need a media an laminate combination that's fairly durable that can take the abuse of an arena floor. I know there's several companies that manufacture product, 3M being one of them. I think they call them floor minders.
Havin' fun,
Checkers
Posted by Joanna Barnett (Member # 6544) on :
Checkers Thanks.. we talked about that but they want something that can be remover when they paint or ads change or just rearrange them. they want something that they can move with no problemso they want on a board or some kind.. they wanted corplast orignally and i told them it won't hold up... they are goin to be screwed on to the face of the step not where you step!
Posted by Patrick Whatley (Member # 2008) on :
Make sure the know what they're getting into if they go with a screw in sign. Yes, step risers take a beating too. When it comes loose at the top from repeatedly being stepped on and kicked and somebody catches a heel on it and goes bouncing down a flight of stairs you really want to tell your client "told you so" instead of "here's my lawyer's number"
Posted by Ken Henry (Member # 598) on :
Hi Joanna. Typically the signs in hockey arenas are usually made of high impact polystyrene, but they're also very often covered by a thinner sheet of Lexan. I am referring to those signs that are on the sides of the rink itself.
For the stair risers, I'd suggest using a thinner gauge of Lexan, but do the graphics in reverse, on the backside and back those smaller signs up with whatever colour may be required. Think of it like doing a mini window lettering job. The Lexan is tough enough to take kicks and scrapes without breakage, since that's what protects the rinkboards from the impact of pucks and skates etc. Fasten them to the risers using fender washers and Tapcon screws. You'll probably use up more than a few carbide bits and a couple of dozen boxes of Tapcons which are fairly pricey.
Hope this helps you out.
[ August 29, 2006, 11:46 PM: Message edited by: Ken Henry ]
Posted by SteveWright (Member # 1377) on :
We have them all over the rink here and they are printed decals- stick them right to the riser. They sell these spots every year and the decals are more economical than trying to make them re-usable.
Posted by Joanna Barnett (Member # 6544) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ken Henry: For the stair risers, I'd suggest using a thinner gauge of Lexan, Fasten them to the risers using fender washers and Tapcon screws. You'll probably use up more than a few carbide bits and a couple of dozen boxes of Tapcons which are fairly pricey.
Hope this helps you out.
Lexan is so expensive i was thinking of just plexi glass cuz it will on only on the face to the step not where u step.... it will get kicked a couple times but then again it won't be geting steped on things droped onit etc.. what do u think? with me screwing it on the steps i don't have to thank goodness... and these will be put on wooden steps... every second is a wooden step then cement!
Posted by Randy Campbell (Member # 2675) on :
Joanna we know what a riser is and whether you step on it or not they get just as much abuse.These people are trying to help you maybe you should listen.I don't mean to be harsh but have you ever walked down stairs and your heal catches the riser?Well this happens all the time and people trip. Posted by Monte Jumper (Member # 1106) on :
Forget the hard substrate....seal or paint the riser and use a "removable vinyl" strip with the graphics (printed or computer cut)on it.
Relatively inexpensive to replace and no fear of anything coming loose to trip or injure a fan. You could even provide digital prints this way.
Don't be afraid to "charge" for these, they are as important and as durable as a hard substrate sign and will do a far better job.
I can remember watching a sign painter hand lettering the risers on a mainstreet walk up when I was a youngster...now that was a pain in the neck...pain in the back and a pain in the ass!
If'n ya know what I mean.
[ August 31, 2006, 09:22 AM: Message edited by: Monte Jumper ]
Posted by Joanna Barnett (Member # 6544) on :
Thanks Monte,.... Yeah thats what i'm goin to do i think!
I dont have to worry about the fans,... cuz i'm not installing them I'm just supplyin them!! and I'm goin to rounding the top edge of the sign so not much of a edge will be there.
Oh and randy,.. I do listen thank you I appreciate all the help i get! But I Have never dealt with or seen stair risers i'm from a small town and I'm the first one here in town to do them!! So just make sure that i'm on the same wave length as everyone else!~
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