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Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :
 
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ANTIVIRUS companies are reporting what they say is the first virus to attack Apple's OS X operating system.

Known as "Leap.A", "Leap-A" or "OSX/Oompa-A", the virus spreads via Apple's iChat instant messaging application, carried by a message attachment labelled "latestpics.tgz".

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[Eek!]

Naturally, Mac users were quick to point a finger at Bill Gates. [Rolling On The Floor]

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Posted by W. R. Pickett (Member # 3842) on :
 
...And PC weenies world wide say "See, see I told you so! Neyahh - neyahh!"
 
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
 
It wouldn't be the first time they found a worm in an apple [Razz] [For Your Information]
 
Posted by Curtis hammond (Member # 2170) on :
 
Not me,, i dotn say that, I say

Neener Neener Neenah!!


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And PC weenies world wide say "See, see I told you so! Neyahh - neyahh!"


 
Posted by Bill Modzel (Member # 22) on :
 
Virus is a bit of a jump on this one. It's malicious for sure. If you want to give it opportunity just do this;
1. Download "latestpics.tgz"
2. Uncompress it
3. Run it by giving Mac OS X your Admin password at the prompt.

Yea, I'm worried. The only reason this is news at all is that it's an attack on the Mac.
 
Posted by Rick Beisiegel (Member # 3723) on :
 
I can't imagine taking the time to create a virus much less aiming your gun at 1% of the population. That would be like dropping a bomb on a city of 3000 people in America. Why? [I Don t Know]

[Cool]
 
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
 
Well Rick, if I were to showcase my skills as a hacker so to speak, and I were the one to infultrate an operating system that hasn't been infultrated yet.

Well you get the point!
 
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
 
It's not that Macs can't be hacked or attaked by virii or other malware...it was simply not worth the effort!

BUT

Since lately the Mac people have been bragging that they are completely safe ............................................................................................................. that p*ssed off the hackers.

Mac users, brace yourselves, because there will be a blitz of 'copy cat' virii and even more intrusive stuff comming at you!

[ February 17, 2006, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: Si Allen ]
 
Posted by Dan Antonelli (Member # 86) on :
 
1% of the population uses Macs? That's news to me I guess.
 
Posted by Dale Manor (Member # 4858) on :
 
Only a few of us idiots own iPods too!

Didn't see any Dells on my recent trip to MOMA? Then again who wants to win design awards on a machine you use to design with?

Ta hell with the hackers, I'll stick with the best OS till there's no power to run the things!
 
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
 
Gee... a virus that users have to willingly install themselves.. not only that, a password is required by OSX to install *anything* and they have to run a specific program to receive it, AND they have to actively accept the message in the first place..

Plenty of opportunity there to CHOOSE not to willingly infect your system.
 
Posted by Bill Modzel (Member # 22) on :
 
That's one percent of the accountants Dan. [Wink]

I wish we had some accurate number of just the creative fields. Photography, graphic design in all of it's forms, music, etc. I bet that 6% base figure would increase multiple times.

By the way, I've really been enjoying you Logo Design 2 book! It's helping me break down some of the design barriers that have developed over 30 years of screen printing and keeping things "simple". Now if Gerber will just upgrade MacImprint. . . .
 
Posted by Paul McDowell (Member # 5092) on :
 
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Originally posted by Mike Pipes:
Gee... a virus that users have to willingly install themselves.. not only that, a password is required by OSX to install *anything* and they have to run a specific program to receive it, AND they have to actively accept the message in the first place..

Plenty of opportunity there to CHOOSE not to willingly infect your system.

The only reason 99% of MS virus attacks work is because Windows users almost always run in Admin accounts. Its the same thing really.
 
Posted by Dan Antonelli (Member # 86) on :
 
Great to hear Bill-

The greatest gift to my own design barriers has been the hiring of 3 other designers who often think a little different than myself.

Maybe now I'll have enough time to write the 3rd book!
 
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
 
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Originally posted by Si Allen:
It's not that Macs can't be hacked or attaked by virii or other malware...it was simply not worth the effort!

BUT

Since lately the Mac people have been bragging that they are completely safe ............................................................................................................. that p*ssed off the hackers.

Mac users, brace yourselves, because there will be a blitz of 'copy cat' virii and even more intrusive stuff comming at you!

Seriously, listen to what Bill said. We can't install ANYTHING on our computers without first typing in our personal password first. A virus can't install itself without entering our password. It just can't.
 
Posted by Eric Barker (Member # 2972) on :
 
Ah, the computer wars.

I bought my first Mac in 1984 and I still have it boxed up with all the original manuals, etc. I still use a Mac for all my online activities and PS and Illustrator. It's simply less hassle, regardless of the reason, and I prefer Apple's OS.

I do use a Dell to run my laser and plotter and for working with CorelDraw and other software incompatible with the Mac. I haven't had any problems since I took it permanently offline and just ordered a new replacement after 7 years of use.

I'll continue to use both platforms as long as hardware/software issues make it necessary, but barring those issues I'd go with the Mac.

"The perfect computer has been developed. You just feed in your problems and they never come out again."
Al Goodman.

 
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
 
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Originally posted by Paul McDowell:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Pipes:
Gee... a virus that users have to willingly install themselves.. not only that, a password is required by OSX to install *anything* and they have to run a specific program to receive it, AND they have to actively accept the message in the first place..

Plenty of opportunity there to CHOOSE not to willingly infect your system.

The only reason 99% of MS virus attacks work is because Windows users almost always run in Admin accounts. Its the same thing really.
It's not the same thing. When I'm logged into the Mac it's through an admin account with full access and I still have to enter a password before I can install any program or make changes to any settings (I keep system settings locked up).
 
Posted by Russ McMullin (Member # 5617) on :
 
There is really no arguing the security of the Mac over windows. It hasn't always been better, but it is now. I'm happy to know there is a safer alternative if I ever require it. I just prefer the Windows interface these days, and the freedom I have to use more software.
 
Posted by John Largent (Member # 4606) on :
 
The arrogance of the "PC Designer' dazzles me. And other than the jealousy that causes PC drivers to badmouth the Mac and it's Operating system, I can't begin to see where they're coming from.

For anybody to say "Windows" in any configuration is a better system than the Mac O.S. is just ignorance. The Mac System is the basis for the Windows System, which still runs on OS/2 basic. A "Crash" waiting to happen. Bill Gates wanted to use the "Multifinder" System almost as soon as he and Jobs put it in the first Mac II . . but he couldn't, and after a lawsuit longer than when Nero sued the Fiddler's Union, Bill gates had to design his "Windows" around the Multifinder, but it couldn't operate with the same ease.

That being said, I use 'em both. PC's at the College and Macs at home . . . there's a lot of similarities, but often with the PC, "You can't get there from here!" At least with graphics and sometimes with Music.

Face it, Macs were made for Art, PC's make Number crunching a breeze.

The new dual core Intel Chip they put in the new iMac is a "Killer" design, enabling a cheap (By Mac Sandards) and absolutely fast design tool. There really isn't a base PC out there that competes. Just a lotta 'Net Rabbits"!

ButthenwotthehelldoIknow?
 
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
 
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The arrogance of the "PC Designer' dazzles me.
[Rolling On The Floor] funny how different people's opinions are. I'd have said just the opposite generally speaking.

Although, I have been giving the mac more thought lately. We'll see.

[ February 19, 2006, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: Todd Gill ]
 
Posted by Rick Chavez (Member # 2146) on :
 
I say it's about time we got a virus of our own....
 
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
 
Hang on there Large, don't be criticizin' OS/2.. OS/2 kicked butt after IBM fired MS from writing an OS for them, took it back and revamped/fixed it making it into an OS that was one of THE most robust systems on the planet at the time. Of course, MS kept a copy of their broken code for themselves, kept bastardizing it and built NT on top of it and IBM dropped the ball on promoting their superior operating system, which was also superior to MacOS at the time.

OS/2 had Spotlight before it was known as Spotlight and OSX's program dock used to be called "Warp Center" when OS/2 was around. [Smile]
OSX really looks like a copycat of OS/2 Warp, these "new features" in OSX I've already seen in OS/2! If OSX had the same voice recognition engine that OS/2 had, OSX would be even cooler. [Smile]
 
Posted by Russ McMullin (Member # 5617) on :
 
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Originally posted by John Largent:
Face it, Macs were made for Art, PC's make Number crunching a breeze.

I've heard this basic idea constantly repeated for 20 years. It used to be true beyond question, but in recent years I find it hard to believe. I don't work with video or 3D software, so I have no opinions in those areas, but in 2D software, like Photoshop and Illustrator, I see no difference. How is the Mac superior in these areas? Supposedly Macs are faster than PCs, but I haven't found this to be true. I once had a 1Ghz G4 and a 1Ghz Athlon. I couldn't tell the difference in speed. I have had other Macs and other PCs, but that was an instance where the specs were basically similar. Is it Easier? It really depends on what are familar with. The Adobe interfaces are identical now on both platforms. Most other software is similar across platforms too. I actually prefer the Windows interface, even with the new bells and whistles of Tiger. When the voices in my head cast their ballots, Windows gets about 60% of the votes. [Smile] A few interface changes to the Mac and I might be pursuaded to switch back.
 
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
 
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Originally posted by Russ McMullin:
quote:
Originally posted by John Largent:
Face it, Macs were made for Art, PC's make Number crunching a breeze.

I've heard this basic idea constantly repeated for 20 years. It used to be true beyond question, but in recent years I find it hard to believe.
I think that's just a holdover from the days when the Macintosh was first introduced and it did have the ability to generate and display nicer graphics than anything else available at the time. That might also have something to do with the fact that XEROX actually designed and built the Macintosh as an interface for copier equipment and needed the advanced graphics abilities for documents - they just didn't know how to fully implement it, kinda like Ethernet networking which they also invented.
 


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