I've been looking for a while for plastic bottles for storing my 1-shot. Found some 4oz bottles in the cosmetic department at Wally world that looked to be the right type of plastic. At 50 cents a pop I got a few to test. Filled a with little reducer and marked a line ... waited a few weeks and was still at line so grabbed a bunch more and started filling ... so far so good. The nice thing is the top is as wide as the bottle so they can be easily stored upsidedown ... I throw a bolt in to shake/stir before filling.
[ November 10, 2004, 08:38 PM: Message edited by: Mark Matyjakowski ]
Posted by Frank Magoo (Member # 3950) on :
Mark, bottles will turn out to be a pain, paint has a tendency to change inside of a bottle, gets muddy and chunky, no matter what you do. Joey Madden uses paint restorer before filling bottles, his wad up and turn too. If not used each day, the bottle starts to wad up and cave in on it's self. Even then, the most I've ever been able to refill a bottle before needing to replace it is, two!!! Bobbo in Albq. has some solvent-resistant bottles for sale, even they do same thing after a time. Enough of a pain, I went back to cans with holes and screws.
Posted by Tony Ray Mattingly (Member # 469) on :
yes, I get mine at a beauty supply house. the bottles are for women to apply stuff to their hair. I am sure I look real funny when I buy the bottles since I have a shaved head.
Posted by Jerry VanHorn (Member # 4704) on :
so, what are you guys doing in the cosmetic section and the beauty supply houses to find these things?
Posted by Mark Matyjakowski (Member # 294) on :
That's why I got small ones, not meant for long term storage. The paint in the bottles we were using at Boones was in there over a year ... good enough for me, at 50 cents per I'm not thinking of refilling.
I haven't tried the screw top, probably should. My problem now is that I use such a little amount at a time I end up pulling a skin every few days off some colors, so I figure I'm losing more than 50 cents of paint in skin
My cans are in my garage (getting cold), these will be less messy in my house ... if it doesn't work I'm not out much (on purpose)
quote: so, what are you guys doing in the cosmetic section and the beauty supply houses to find these things?
What else is a guy supposed to do while his wife is checking out chainsaws
Posted by George Perkins (Member # 156) on :
I used the bottles ( EZ Pour ) for years with One Shot with good success. I used to use the eight ounce and could get numerous refills out of them. Some bottles lasted four or five years. Some of the rarely used colors would go bad but for the most part they were trouble free.The key was tha I was using A LOT of One Shot. Lettering and doing large graphics on 18 wheelers kept a steady flow. These days we rarely use One Shot, using almost strictly urethanes, the One Shot is now in 4 oz bottles and a lot of it is almost unusable. A lot of the bottles have closed in on themselves, some to the point of splitting open HOK urethane doesn't keep in them worth a crap either. If we can figure out a good way to use the screw/can combo to where they will store good we will go that route, otherwise we are just going to stack 4 oz cans in the kit and make a mess ( yea, like that would be something new for me )
I've used the little Goody's bottles before. They will work OK if the paint doesn't sit too long in them, getting weekly usage at the least. The spouts get a little messy after awhile though.
[ November 11, 2004, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: George Perkins ]
Posted by Gavin Chachere (Member # 1443) on :
A few years ago,one of the latest 'greatest' things to come down the pipe for suppliers was gonna be 'clear' mixing cans..they were made out of solvent resistant plastic....they also sucked. Same problems described by everyone above,plus they had the nifty effect of causing any premixed colors to separate,no matter what you did or how long you shook them,and the answer we got was that its was a static electricity problem caused by the plastic which made the paint seperate into its component parts. Sounded like a load of crap to me too but who knows and i didnt care enuff to get into some kind of in depth research on it. Only thing i can add here is that nothing is as reliable for sticking paint in as metal containers
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
Let me try to use my prospective here, I think it all depends on how much paint you use from each container which dictates how long the container will last. BTW, anyone know where I can find straight sided 1/2 ounce glass bottles?
Posted by John Arnott (Member # 215) on :
Yea Mark, I've been using them for years now. (Sid Mosses supplies them) The ones from beauty shops are a little too thin. As a 1 man shop, I use tiny amounts of paint at a time. This is real handy. You just need to add a little thinner to them now and then. I keep them in my kit. When you do large jobs, of course you take the quarts with you. Its handy to keep all the colors in the kit because you always need a special color mixed out on a job. Saved my ass many times! enjoy. . . . . John
Posted by Artisan Signs (Member # 3146) on :
Would baby-food jars work? Not really up my alley, just an idea.
[ November 11, 2004, 05:06 PM: Message edited by: William Bass ]
Posted by Dave Grundy (Member # 103) on :
William...the glass baby food jar part is just fine...it's the lids that don't last, at least for me. The "plastic" seals in the lids dissolve on me and then they don't seal.
Posted by Santo (Member # 411) on :
Joey, try the hex shaped jars used for jelly and marelade samplers. They are a little over an once with a wide opening.
Posted by Santo (Member # 411) on :
too late to edit my last post. My wife got a few of these from her job. They work well.
I wonder if a bit of silicone or somewhat could be applied where the seal used to be on the baby food jar. After it cures (don't screw it back on until AFTER it cures, right?), it might last quite awhile (if it works at all). But, that might be too much trouble for the benefit being sought.
Posted by Myra Grozinger (Member # 327) on :
After 27 years, and trying everything, I have given up. I now use an ice pick.
Needless to say, I do no longer letter with one-shot every day
Posted by DeWayne Connot (Member # 4417) on :
Hey Ya-all, I personally have been using bottles for one shot for about ten years now. I never have a problem with paint going bad in the bottles, however I use my paints everyday except weekends, and the real trick is the proper set up not the type of bottle. GO TO THE BABY SECTION OF YOUR LOCAL STORE, BUY "BABY BOTTLE LINERS" NOW INSERT ONE LINER INTO EACH BOTTLE OF YOUR CHOOSING FOLD DOWN THE TOP AND BLOW INTO BOTTLE TO OPEN UP THE LINER, NOW FILL WITH ONE-SHOT PAINT STRAIGHT FROM CAN, NO SHAKER IN LINER REQUIRED OR RECOMMENDED. STORE YOUR BOTTLE UPSIDE DOWN, THE BOTTLE LINER COLLAPSES AND PREVENTS AIR FROM ENTERING. WHEN THE BOTTLE IS EMPTY PULL OUT THE BOTTLE LINER AND REUSE THE PRISTINE BOTTLE ALL OVER AGAIN. Works for me allday everyday!
Posted by Bob Stephens (Member # 858) on :
How big are these baby bottles DeWayne?
Posted by Jane Diaz (Member # 595) on :
William, I'm not a painter but I am around one everyday...(or I play one on TV? remember those commercials?) anyway.... I have heard it said that silicone will cause your paint to fisheye. It would NOT be a good idea to add silicone to the baby food lids unless you want to contaminate the paint. See what you can learn here!?
Posted by Harris Kohen (Member # 2139) on :
Dewayne, I have heard of your bottle liner method in the past but would like to know, what size bottles you use and also what size liners you use with them?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by William Bass (Member # 4929) on :
Jane,
I DO vaguely remember a commercial where a guy said, "I'm not a [doctor?], but I play one on TV." Well, THAT'S credibility!
I'm glad you chimed in with that info; I wouldn't want folks to follow my suggestion and then wind up with contaminated paint.
Actually, in my dad's shop we used a technique similar to Myra's ice-pick method. Instead of an ice-pick, we employed flat-head screw drivers or sharp, pointed sticks to break or remove the skins. I actually dislike paint in general and will avoid it whenever possible.
But one would think that somewhere there is a jar with a lid whose seals can withstand the vapors of solvent-based paints.
What about Testors plastic model paint jars? Where does Testors get THEIR jars?
Posted by DeWayne Connot (Member # 4417) on :
I use 8 oz. bottles and 8 oz. playtex or gerber bottle liners, I do believe that they sell 4 oz. liners as well. the liners are not made for the kind of bottles we use, however the liners work just fine, probably hold about 6-6 1/2 oz. of paint
Posted by Mark Higdon (Member # 2990) on :
Bottles of all sizes and I have not been able to beat his price yet and all are solvent proof just get the flip top with the hole not the spout. lazerlines.com pinstriping supplies.