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Posted by Steve Racz (Member # 4376) on :
 
Hello Letterheads,

I need your opinions. The customer has settled on this font. I can “attach” the letters in the word “Mantua” just fine (see first line). However the word “Electric” does not attach so well. For example, extending the first “c” in “Electric” doesn’t look right (I tried it - it takes the "c" out of round). Also, the “r” is problematic.

Would you:
1. Use the “attached” Mantua with the unattached “Electric” (as in line 1)?
2. Use the “unattached” Mantua (see line 2) with the unattached “Electric”?
3. Do something else???

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Thanks in advance,
Steve
 
Posted by Chuck Gallagher (Member # 69) on :
 
Hi Steve,

In my opinion not all letters will be connected. It depends on the letters used. Mainly concern yourself with the kerning and if some touch others, weld them and if not, so it goes. If you've ever seen hand written text, some personal styles are the same way. Some are connected and others start their paths, so let it be and get on with taking the money!!! Thought of something else too after seeing your words again, if it looks right you can extend the serifs so you can connect them....if it looks right that is.

Good luck!

[ September 16, 2004, 05:08 PM: Message edited by: Chuck Gallagher ]
 
Posted by Joe Rees (Member # 211) on :
 
You know you must be a Letterhead if you agonize over these things.
 
Posted by Joe Rees (Member # 211) on :
 
Actually Steve, I would try to connect them. No other shop would, but I would. Even if it meant completely reshaping the 'c' to connect naturally and chucking the 'r' and redrawing it in a connected style. Would anyone appreciate that effort? Not a chance. But I would still do it. Damn you Letterheads.
 
Posted by Dave Grundy (Member # 103) on :
 
Steve..I'd just "node edit" the extensions on the "c" and "t"(NOT stretch the actual letters) to make them overlap and weld em...I wouldn't worry about the "r". Like Joe says...ONLY you will be worried...the customer won't give a damn.
 
Posted by Bob Stephens (Member # 858) on :
 
yep
 
Posted by Bruce Bowers (Member # 892) on :
 
I care.

I can feel your kerning pain.

Dammit, Jim, I am just a sign painter, not a medical doctor...
 
Posted by Dave Levesque (Member # 4374) on :
 
Ditto

What Dave Said
and Bob Yepped

Convert to Curves and Node Edit.

That's how I make custom flourishes, I think that's what their called.
 
Posted by Steve Racz (Member # 4376) on :
 
Thanks for the help guys.

I know it's a pretty trivial question but it was bugging me so i thought i would get some professional help... [Smile]

I always look at other signs i see with a critical eye but i doubt other people do (except us letterheads).

Sometimes i think the customer would be just as happy with a white rectangular sign with big black helvetica letters. (but i wouldn't)

Thanks again,
Steve

[ September 18, 2004, 07:21 AM: Message edited by: Steve Racz ]
 
Posted by Monte Jumper (Member # 1106) on :
 
I don't know what program you use but on gerber it is a simple process of forcing them slightly and moving them together then hitting the "contour button...it will attach all the letters at once.

Somtimes (as maybe in your case) the letters can be opened at the attachment point ...a node added to the line to stablize it then "stretch the line into the next letter(maintaining the angle of approach)...open that letter at the same point by adding nodes and
then simply attach them.

Gerber allows you to do it both ways the diffence being of course you have to do them one at a time with the second method.

Hope this helps...I see no reason you can't join all the letters in this simple script.

By the way looks like your Capitals need to be canted slightly to match the angle of the body of the script...it'll help the looks tremendously.

good luck!

[ September 18, 2004, 10:15 AM: Message edited by: Monte Jumper ]
 
Posted by Steve Racz (Member # 4376) on :
 
Thanks Monte - i never even thought or noticed the slant of the caps - i'll make that change.

Thanks,
Steve
 


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