I cant thank everyone enough for the help in my last (New topic) about this subject !
My glass gilding practicing is going well have managed to acheive a nice gilded letter with a black outline!
I have also been reading up on how to acheive Matt centres,in which i read that this is done useing oil size,my question is...do you use this clear or can it be tinted slightly so you can see where you are going
Thanks in advance ....Jeremy T.....
Posted by Kelly Thorson (Member # 2958) on :
You can tint the size with a bit of color in the same range as your leaf or you can get some neat effects by using different colors. Try a sample piece with the color you are using. I always have a companion piece of glass by the piece I'm working on that I can use to try out colors and techniques - it has saved me a lot of grief. I've had to change courses in the middle of a piece, but at least it wasn't ruined.
Posted by Jeremy Paul Taylor (Member # 4441) on :
Thanks Kelly ,i am aware that the size is tinted slightly when oil gilding on anything other than glass ! i usually use a spot of chrome yellow or imitation gold !
Was'nt sure whether you could do this in conection with glass ! now i know,thanks again, & for the imfo on those great sites you let me know about
Jeremy T...
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
Jeremy....get some Kaolin and dust the glass with it. As you lay on the size, it becomes transperant. Thus, easily seeing where the size is, and isn't.
I am not sure where you can obtain it on the other side of the pond.
Posted by Jeremy Paul Taylor (Member # 4441) on :
Thanks Si,I will definitly give that a try ! I will at some point send you a pic ,via email just to let you see how I'm getting along !
Glass Gilding is awsome I'm having great fun with it..how says working is BOREING
Jeremy T...
Posted by John Arnott (Member # 215) on :
Jeremy, Make all your samples of gold the same size so you can frame each one. Then when a customer wants to see samples, just take them to show. You can't sell gold unless you show gold. Most matt centers wil not be tinted. You should practice the corect way, the old way first, then try the tint stuff later. A lot of gold jobs are too large of letters for just plain burnished gold letters. (they don't show as well as a burnished outline with matt centers)Also make some samples the same size on wood panels to show surface gilding. Enjoy it or don't do it . . . .. . .John
Posted by Jeremy Paul Taylor (Member # 4441) on :
Thanks John, that sounds like good advice to me ! Just to let you know that i have tried both methods IE,clear size & tinted I've got to say that i do prefer the clear way,to me it looks more like the class has been etched !
I'm sure there are some nice effects that can be obtained when tinting the size, i will keep having a play with it.
Thanks again everone Jeremy T.....
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
Jeremy,
I was taught to use a tad of one-shot to tint my size as well, but in comparison, between 2 jobs I did side by side one job had the on0shot, the other just straight size, the one without one-shot tinting looking better , clearer and sharper in the center.
Good Luck
Posted by Jeremy Paul Taylor (Member # 4441) on :
Thank you Bob, all of this help has been fantastic! Hopfully soon i will be managing to pick up some work in this field,like my very own solicitor 'perhap's' Can't waite to get out there & gild some glass, will keep you posted on my progress !
Jeremy T....
Posted by John Jordan (Member # 2368) on :
Hi Jeremy,
If you go back to one of my earlier posts you will find that I explained how to use Kaolin when matting.
If you want to have a tinted "Glaze" size I suggest you use Artist's Tube colour as it is beautifully finaly ground.
I strongly recommend that you attend a Letterhead Meet that has a Gilding Class.
Take care, regards, John
Posted by Richard Bustamante (Member # 370) on :
Remember, you are painting size; in reverse, on glass. Any tinting will show on the viewing side of the gold. Hence, if you put yellow 1-shot in your size, you'll wind up with yellow tinted gold. The size is the layer between the glass and the gold, and its visible. The size (slow dring varnish) must be lettered evenly, and allowed to partialy dry before gilding. (gold application)
Try using a piece of white butcher paper on the other side of the glass. You should be able to see the size. You should also have a light near by thats shining in the direction of the glass. You can use the glare in the glass to see the size.
"Once you do it a few time, you'll get the hang of it."
-Rich
Posted by Jeremy Paul Taylor (Member # 4441) on :
Thank you John, once again your advice is much a appreciated i would very much love to attend a live meet & see some of you great guy's in action (hopfully oneday)
Richard thank you to that also sounds great advice.
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