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Posted by Gonzalo (Peewee)Curiel (Member # 3837) on :
 
I have tried putting One shot reducer 6000 in a squirt bottle (as I do one shot high temp)but after a few days it turns to pudding...or should I say coagulates.. I was wunderin' why it does that? is it sensitive to light? (the bottles are transparent) Or is it the exposure to the air that causes this? It relly makes it tough to pour a little bit out of a quart can... what should I do? [Confused]
 
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
 
All that stuff should be kept in a cool dry place, didn't anyone ever tell ya that Peewee. Cya at Cranks this weekend and I'll give ya a thingie which won't do that.

BTW I'll be there Wednesday for lunch, will stay till Monday

[ May 19, 2004, 01:23 AM: Message edited by: Joey Madden ]
 
Posted by Murray MacDonald (Member # 3558) on :
 
goes glooby cause it's varnish. I just pour it in the lid and drip it into the paint. Then again, I ain't hi tech.
MUR
 
Posted by Jillbeans (Member # 1912) on :
 
Could it be a chemical reaction due to the plastic squirt bottle?
I just do like MUR does. I learned that back in my Diner cooking days when adding Vanilla extract to meringue.
Love...Jill
 
Posted by Santo (Member # 411) on :
 
The Hi Temp will gel when left in an open container.
 
Posted by Bill Diaz (Member # 2549) on :
 
Don't open 6000 containers or hardener containers. Just drill a screw in the top, and don't forget to put the screw back on when you're done -- this will keep the air out and help with the coagulation.
 
Posted by Cam Bortz (Member # 55) on :
 
Has anyone thought of putting this stuff in a tube, like artist oil paint? I spoke to Frank Manning and he said it jells because of oxidation (exposure to air) and eventually it will jell in any opened can, even with a screw in the top. In a tube there'd be no airspace to do this.
 
Posted by James Donahue (Member # 3624) on :
 
I think Cam's headed the right direction, but reducer is a bit runny for a tube. What about the "Wine in a box" containers I've seen?

Apparently, wine turns to vinegar when left exposed to air. So they developed this glossy box to sell it in, but inside is a sac that collapses as the wine is drank (drunk, dunken, [Dunno] drinked [Dunno] ???)

Should've paid attention in English class.
 
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
 
Gotta watch out with those plastic bottles, some of 'em are pretty porous. It gets worse when you fill one with an aromatic, they turn to mush!

I had some scented jojoba oil in a plastic bottle once. I forget what the scent was but it was a pretty potent essential oil and the bottle flat out melted just sitting a day on the shelf.
 
Posted by E. Balch (Member # 3545) on :
 
I would think sales would decline if it never went bad. Why spend money to invent some expensive package that will cut your sales?

I know we usually replace the reducer can before it's all used up.

ernie
 
Posted by Frank Manning Jr. (Member # 2699) on :
 
Hey boys and girls....the 6001 (Low Temp) & 6002 (High Temp) are almost pure solvents and won't gel in the can. The "Ole 6000" on the other hand has flow enhancers in it and will gel when exposed to air. It will also react to migrating plasticizers from alot of plastic bottles out there the same way the paint does....the newer PET style bottles fare much better. They are harder to squeeze and very clear, but the paint doesn't gel nearly as quickly. I believe DeWayne Connet has been using baby bottle liners in his bottles for his paint. My suggestion would be to drill a small (tiny) hole in the side of the bottle that you would cover up with your finger when squeezing out the paint/reducer/hardner and un-covering when releasing the bottle. This allows air back into the bottle without sucking it back into the "bladder" of paint.....just a thought. It should aid in extending the life of the sensitive products as long as the cap seals well.
 
Posted by Cam Bortz (Member # 55) on :
 
Those baby bottle liners have two problems - one, they're made for milk, not solvent-based chemicals, and two, they aren't meant for long term storage. A tube could be used if it had a pinhole beneath the screw-on cap.
 


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