i have this real old pounce wheel i got...cant remeber where. it is a wooden handle, with a place to put your index finger and it has 22 1/4" long pins embedded in a brass center. now its only for larger patterns, when you need to cove a lot of distance. leaves a pin hole in the paper about ever 3/8-1/2" apart. cant seem to find it anyplace. in my searching i found these at www.lacis.com/catalog no. AA1 & AE2 which are $12.00 and $10.50 each. now they are close to my old one in the head design but the $12 is all metal and has a good feel to it. the $10.50 is a white plastic handle same head as the other. i ordered both.....if you still run patterns....this is the ticket!!!!!
Posted by Jillbeans (Member # 1912) on :
Op, I was SO glad to have my trusty pounce wheel the other day! I had a 10"x30' wall job, and had cut a pounce pattern with my plotter. Even after sanding the back, the chalk simply would not pound thru the pattern. My friend Bill & I each had our pounce wheels, took em out, and re-traced on the spot. Worked like a charm! Love...Jill Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
Joe, BEWARE THE TRUTH............. YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Get with the times, break down and buy an Electro-Pounce so you can spend more time enjoying life. Remove the needles from the pounce wheel and use it to cut your Tofu Pizza Posted by PKing (Member # 337) on :
Joe; What you have is "material"wheel used by seamstresses in the textile industry! Very sharp,long,thin,needle like teeth,use for the SAME reason of transfering (patterns) on thier kind of substrate familar to them. Craft stores and Wal-mart have these
hope this helps
Posted by Jon Butterworth (Member # 227) on :
I don't use a pounce wheel. I've tried, but find it quicker and easier either to use a "carbon" paper (brown wrapping paper carboned with charcoal block) or on big pattern to run the charcoal block over the lines on the back.
Check out my post "What a job!". The 5 Hancook logos on the awning were all done with this method and only took a few minutes to transfer with a ruler and pencil. Mind you, the newspaper pattern was looking a bit sad by the end Posted by Rovelle W. Gratz (Member # 4404) on :
OP, I have one of those, mine is a wooden handled Grumbacher X-893. I got mine in a box of junk at a yard sale. The points look like those old phonograph needles.
[ May 18, 2004, 04:41 PM: Message edited by: Rovelle W. Gratz ]
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
rov..we have something we agree on...hehehehehe. i had no idea who made it....and i dont think you can buy it today from grumbaucher. yes pat thats what the web site is for....but no craft stores in pcola have em. joey.....electo pounce is nice....you need a metal sheet behing your pattern..and i dont have one.......also i would probably shock the s*** outa myself with it...
Posted by Joe Endicott (Member # 628) on :
A little shock therapy could do ya some good!
Posted by Bill Biggs (Member # 18) on :
I use exacto pounce wheels, they are available from any sign supply house. Bill
Posted by FranCisco Vargas (Member # 145) on :
Jill, when you pounce your patterns on a plotter, most of the time you have to scuff them with a sanding block, or some 100 grit sand paper. Then your pounce powder will go thru...
Posted by Jillbeans (Member # 1912) on :
I did! I did! I usually have to double-plot the darn thing too. Easier to pen plot & pounce by hand. And I would KILL myself with an Electro-Pounce. Love...Jill
Posted by Mark Fair Signs (Member # 289) on :
I use a Nail like Leonardo What's his Face. LOL
the electro-pounce is the way to avoid carpel tunnel syndrome.
old paint, why don't ya start making shirts with that thing??? hahahahahha
Posted by Danny Busselle (Member # 3746) on :
HI OP if you really want to get a pounce machine. Go "Montroy Electrical Supply" in Los Angeles maybe on Web. Or Call (213)749 2262 McLogans Supply In Los Angles. Hope that Helps Posted by Joe Rees (Member # 211) on :
Slightly off topic...I had a guy from England work in my shop a few years who was a marvel of oddities. (anyone know Colin Seal?) Colin would 'pounce' his small patterns with a sewing needle. Damnedest thing. Worked well for showcard and small stuff. He'd chalk up sewing thread also and snap layout lines. Maybe he was a frustrated tailor in a former life.
Posted by John Lennig (Member # 2455) on :
Alright! Safety Issue!
You all remember to wear a Tiny pair of welders goggles, that's an ARC, ya know.
We used to(at a shop I worked in) do the "direct pounce"... project onto paper, paper taped to metal wall, just use the elctropounce, no drawing going on, we're working in a Darkroom... so "arc" is really strong... wear the goggles, then you won't be doing a Google Search for "Eye Remediation Work"
forget the pattern, just do like the "old guys you always hear about,.... "he just started brushin', didn't use that pattern thing you're usin', that's cheatin'"
I ramble...
John Lennig / SignRider
Posted by Rovelle W. Gratz (Member # 4404) on :
Anybody can do that...all you have to do is follow the lines, right?
Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on :
We still do a lot of pounce patterns, but mostly on he plotter now. Rather than sanding the backs, we often click on "MIRROR" and do them in reverse and the powder goes right through.
Posted by Ray Rheaume (Member # 3794) on :
I don't really do much for pouncing, but I do have a couple of old Griswold brand pounce wheels that come out of the box on occasion. They were given to me a few years ago and I have no idea if they are still being made. (Google came up with nothing...the closest thing was cast iron frying pans...lol)
Rapid
[ May 19, 2004, 10:09 AM: Message edited by: Ray Rheaume ]
Posted by Jerry Mathel (Member # 526) on :
OP, You don't really need a metal easel to use an electro pounce. A trick from years back was to use a piece of metal window screen to cover your easel or table. When you are done making your pattern, just roll up the screen and store it away. For large patterns, it actually works better than a smooth piece of metal, as it blows bigger holes in the paper. In the "old" days we could get copper window screen, but the new aluminum stuff seems to work OK. Just make sure the ground wire is attached real well, or you'll wire yourself for sound.
Another pounce trick I used was to carry a good sized piece of felt, folded up in my kit. Works great when you have to make a pattern with a pounce wheel out on a job.
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
Jerry...why carry arond a large roll of felt? I simply flatten out a cardboard box (corregated) and pounce my pattern on that....work just as well!
Posted by Jillbeans (Member # 1912) on :
Hell, Si, I just use the beer box from the case the client gives me as payment for writing my name on his race car! Coroplast might work too! luv jill
Posted by Checkers (Member # 63) on :
Hey Jill, If I remember correctly, there's 2 angles in which you can put your pounce wheel in the Gerber plotter. One angle would barely preforate and required a lot of sanding. The other angle would preforate and slightly tear the paper making the holes bigger.
Havin' fun,
Checkers
Posted by Rovelle W. Gratz (Member # 4404) on :
A friend had a 4 X 8 foot part of his easel...plywood covered with old felt from a pool table. Worked great.
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