Seems this stuff sprays on cold, does not need heat to cure, will stick on anything, and after polished a bit, looks like cast metal. They even have developed a castable Luminore.
If you make demensional signs, and want them to look like real metal, outdoor durable up to 30 years...check this out!
Anyone working with this smuck? They say you need training first. 2 days of it!
Posted by Maris Schilling (Member # 537) on :
This stuff sounds great. I'll be checking on it.
Maris
Posted by Amy Brown (Member # 1963) on :
Hey Dave,
Do a search and you should find more info., it's been discussed before. They make you buy at least $3000 worth to start before they will sell you smaller kits. At least that's my understanding. There are similar products and I think if you search this board you'll find the post where others brought it up.
I have a piece here done with LuminOre by Northcoast Sign Works and it is really cool looking.
[ February 17, 2004, 11:12 PM: Message edited by: Amy Brown ]
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
reminds me of some stuff they used to make it was like a paste..and was called MAGIC METAL....you open the can, and you had a good 2-3 hours of workin time with it....and then left it set over nite and it was hard just like metal...but had a a dull alum color to it.
Posted by Jim Bagaas (Member # 3808) on :
When I was with Yesco we used that stuff while doing the out statues and "bowls" for MGM.Nice product and it does what they advertise.We made the bowls out of foam and applied the metal then polished the whole thing out.It came out looking like they were made of metal.
Posted by E. Balch (Member # 3545) on :
The stuff is no big deal. A few years ago I took a course at north coast sign works where we used that material. I believe it's a 2 part polyester with metal powder mixed in. Luminore has "Hollywood prices" for licensing the process and buying materials. I seem to remember a $5k initial cost.
Not having a "Hollywood bank account" I bought some metal powder and mixed it with 2 part epoxy resin for about $30. It seems to work just fine. I only made a couple of samples with the process. I never bothered to figure out an oxidizing treatment to give the aged patina of old bronze.
ernie
Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
We're setting up for Luminore at the shop where I work. We're already licensed, etc...and are presently setting up the large spray booth to do it. Any questions, talk to Mike Burdick at 941-505-9300. He's the shop foreman and the guy we sent out to SanDiego to take the classes and get certified.
Steve....if I get my boss to become a merchant on here to wholesale "Luminoreing" folks' signs, do I qualify for the finders fee? Posted by J.T. Gazaway (Member # 2001) on :
What you are looking at there is called a cold- cast metal. There are a lot of them on the market nowdays. There are epoxy based, polyesther based, urethane based, and some are even water based acrylic. Luminore is a great product. It's just that they want your first born in order to actually get some. Here's a water based one you can play around with for a mere 50 bucks... http://www.progressivesignsystems.com/metal/ A urethane based, 2 gallons (and that's A LOT!) for 75 bucks... http://www.silpak.com/products/casting/cold_cast.htm and here's a couple of sources for just the metal powder to add to your own resins... http://www.silpak.com/products/casting/cold_cast.htm http://www.synair.com/products/fillers/deco.html I haven't tried everything out there but I know one thing... you don't have to go to "school" just to use the stuff. You spray it on and buff it out. It's just that simple. All of them are pretty much the same to work with. They act a lot like real metal (buff, polish, drill etc.) Think of it as some really shiny JB-weld because that's about all it is. Have fun.
Posted by VICTORGEORGIOU (Member # 474) on :
Scott Sign Systems offered a line of products based on Luminore. A couple of years ago they would send out samples. I'm not retail anymore so I don't remember much else about it. Vic G
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
You can get materials for cold casting (or cold spraying) just about anywhere they sell moldmaking and casting materials, like the sites JT posted as well as smooth-on.com.
There's nothing special about them, it's just resin with metal powders mixed in. If you feel like experimenting you could probably mix metal powder with automotive urethane clearcoat and get the same thing.
Posted by Darryl Gomes (Member # 98) on :
Check out a place called Caswell Plating They sell a product called SilvaChrome. You can get a starter kit for around $329.00 Canadian Funds. It looks very similar to Luminore.. I have not seen either product in front of me though, but for $329 it is almost worth trying, compared to thousands for Luminore.
Darryl
Posted by Jdee (Member # 2970) on :
I had no luck with Silvachrome. Soon as the Clear hits it it turns Yellow. I think a water base clear might work, but I gave up on it.. Odd thing is they have my photos on their site to sell the stuff My Photos Jdee They forgot this one
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